OldNick

I was fun though,lol

what happened to FF thread this morning about texts????

you dont write Pinnacles statements do you Steve?

I think to save your blushes I would have thought a big charity donation should be made to stop him doing so.

No evidence whatsoever, that is why I put MAY. If his finances are as has been reported theremust be other money surely?

As i said earlier you cannot pick and chose who you dish it out to. Others have taken some really disgusting abuse. I dont care if they are perceived as being fantascists or not until it is proved to be certainly the case is it fair to do so.If TL doesnt go through with his bid he will be a fantascist if he gets it done he is a hero.How hypocritical is that? People should take a good look at themselves on their conduct. I myself do not feel good about it as well.I thankfully held back from real abuse even thogu my faith was tested. It still is not over and lets not jump the gun until it is sorted. The Swiss may get in first of course.I dont care of any of the groups who actually wins as I just want the clubs safety first.

you would ruin it wouldnt you

He may only be the front for a bigger money man.

to be fair MLT cannot say it is definite as the fL might move the goalposts. I would expect MLT would not do anything to intentionally to mislead us and we should on this occasion giive him the respect he deserves and take him on what he said.

what goes black white blue ?

it is still wrong that the way MJ has been treated on here.You cant have a rule for 1 and not another.As with TL he may well have been let down by moneymen who got cold feet.That is why the moneymen like anominity as if they lose their nerve their reputation doesnt go with it. It is left on the frontman to lose any credibility (that is the price of commissions gained). For TL you can read MJ, both were people genuinely trying to find buyers but at the last minute were let down. They then try and paddle the canoe as long as possible in the vain search for another to take the place of the one lost.Both are seen as fantascists now but I believe they tried, and as they both put serious money into their bids neither will come away unhurt financially. It is easy to sit here and have a pop.How many of you lot would put your house on the line for the club, or even risk getting a loan of 10k so you could go and try and find a buyer? Yes they both are fantascists and dreamers, but so are we on here talking about our club but when push comes to shove really we dont love it enough to go and actually spend a decent wedge of our own money trying to find someone to buy it. Iam sad that it has come to this, I still believe (stupidly) that it can't happen to us. What have i done to try and save us.....well I turned up to Saintsaid and put £30 into a pot, I have debated and argued about how it should be done, as for anything else apart from asking the odd multi millionaire i know or met 'how about buying saints' I have done nothing. Shame on me.

IMO I dont think Salzs lot are amaeurish middlemen, just very hardnosed and probably ruthless.

thanks for the review, you aint an Echo reporter are you...........only kidding (to both parties)

Hey Beer, dont let Ginge get to you. He's alright really and you also give as good as you get and so dont need to lose your rag.

hey DD is it positive stuff or just perhaps etc?

the Salz group will be rubbing their hands in glee, their strategy seems to be coming to fruition.

well if you were you would have known about my previous.

I put that on a PM to Farmer. Why the kid gloves. If there really is something so wrong in what the FL is asking then expose it (or let it leak) If it is appalling then the media will strike and the FL will have to take into account that. It will put unbelievable pressure on the FL. If Pinnacle leave it too late we will be gone and the FL will be able to move on. I expect the sympathy would move to us and then others may come out of the woodwork wanting to help in this injustice. I can only see it as an excuse otherwise. Reading TL's update and FF it is fairly clear that the initial money did walk and they jumped the gun as I and others pointed out.

I of course meant the forums that were alive before this is as well that the saintsweb followed on from.

we were winning the forum match with 2 minutes to go......oh

In future I will have to word my posts carefully for the lack of understanding. I think it was fairly obvious it was my opinion. As for the last bit I think you are out of order. You just being a late comer to these forums would not have seen the abuse i took night after night defending people at the club.From the Devil through to Kelvin. I didnt change my mind under the attacks then, but in the case of Pinnacle Jackson etc I have listened read and tried to get a balance if there has been a fair debate that help change opinion.I of course cannot let you be privvy to PM's as well. Pinnacle I was sceptical of from early on, I have becone more positive about them in the last 2 days, that may niot be clever but I cant explain why I have a felling that they may just come good.No info to suggest it, but a weird feeling of hope. Probably just hope or I may be pregnant (Im giving MB some ammo here)

Ginge I odnt need to go to the kids ward to understand perspective thanks

Au contraire monsewer au contraire. I was very vocal about that , as were a few others.They tried to shout us down but the few did see the madness of King Wilde

I cant understand why fairly smart people would roll out somebody who would be quickly rubbished by a few clicks on the internet.That alone doesnt add up and I cant see why as yet Pinnacle are trying to make a smokescreen. Fry I doubt is amused as he is being to made to look foolish in accepting their bid in the first place.Clapham has not been posting and I do wonder how the trade willl view Fry's performance. I doubt his reputation will be enhanced by a football club under his watch being liquidated for the first time (of our size) Ego's will be bruised and I hope that may make Fry move his a### and concentrate his mind fully into getting a bid done, no more of his games with sudden appearances of overseas biddes may help. I have for quite some time been worried about his complacency and wished then that he took MJ's bid on the table and at least he could have shook that off early doors by calling their bluff.Just accepting may have seen them either pay up or run a mile (MJ's group had a bid on the table weeks ago and well before Pinnacle. Yes I know all about him, but it would have finished his stuff then) Pinnacle may then have not rushed before having their money people fully on board. Of course the defenders of fry (who is not working for the best for my interests as a fan) would be trying to get the most but we didn't have the time, he no doubt is used to when playing bidder against bidder in normal commerce. I hope Pinnacle do the business, if not I will jump on the Swiss wagon and then if they do not come up trumps Im with the carpet baggers

I cant understand why I feel this way but I have a feeling there still may be a twist in this sorry tale.