Who plays with wingers in this day and age?

[Legod Third Coming]

Go on. Name them?

 

How many goals are actually scored with crosses from the bye-line?

 

I've watched four football programmes today - two live games - and there seem to be no wingers getting in behind and crossing the ball (Ryan Smith doesn't count - and he didn't get one cross in anyway!).

 

So, has this gone from the modern game?

 

Are we asking for width when most goals are now scored from diagonal balls into the box, or balls down the middle?

 

I still crave a pacy winger myself but maybe that's no longer on the agenda??

 

Thoughts?

[Thedelldays]

probably most of the teams in league 1

[saint_stevo]

Depends on the strikers

 

Leicester are playing with wide men (Dyer and N'guessien) to aim for Howard, but Newcastle have counteracted that with 5 in midfield so no real space about

[lordswoodsaints]

Manu

[Verbal]

The best and most exciting teams to watch don't have or need dedicated wingers because they have pace and power throughout. Watch Arsenal on the break - or, it pains me to say it, Chelsea, when they're rampaging through the weaker sides in the Prem.

[derry]

Go on. Name them?

 

How many goals are actually scored with crosses from the bye-line?

 

I've watched four football programmes today - two live games - and there seem to be no wingers getting in behind and crossing the ball (Ryan Smith doesn't count - and he didn't get one cross in anyway!).

 

So, has this gone from the modern game?

 

Are we asking for width when most goals are now scored from diagonal balls into the box, or balls down the middle?

 

I still crave a pacy winger myself but maybe that's no longer on the agenda??

 

Thoughts?

 

It need not necessarily be wingers or the same players down the touchline, but all the best teams play with width, all the game one or two players occupy the touchlines at all times and in total five or six players can play there during the game. Arsenal, Utd, Barcelona do it, we just leave the space for the opponents to play in.

 

Some teams play two banks of four touchline to touchline. Newcastle have Taylor, Barton, Guthrie, Geremie and Nolan in midfield nobody playing wide but Leicester are playing two banks of four with Howard and Fryatt up front and looked much better.

[Legod Third Coming]

The best and most exciting teams to watch don't have or need dedicated wingers because they have pace and power throughout. Watch Arsenal on the break - or, it pains me to say it, Chelsea, when they're rampaging through the weaker sides in the Prem.

 

Pace we definitely lack!

[Legod Third Coming]

It need not necessarily be wingers or the same players down the touchline, but all the best teams play with width, all the game one or two players occupy the touchlines at all times and in total five or six players can play there during the game. Arsenal, Utd, Barcelona do it, we just leave the space for the opponents to play in.

 

Some teams play two banks of four touchline to touchline. Newcastle have Taylor, Barton, Guthrie, Geremie and Nolan in midfield nobody playing wide but Leicester are playing two banks of four with Howard and Fryatt up front and looked much better.

 

Good points - we seem to have always lacked width. Even Fernandes never, ever got to the bye-line!!!

[shurlock]

The best and most exciting teams to watch don't have or need dedicated wingers because they have pace and power throughout. Watch Arsenal on the break - or, it pains me to say it, Chelsea, when they're rampaging through the weaker sides in the Prem.

 

Teams like Chelsea have full-on wingbacks -Cole, Bosingwa- that give them that option. Just look at the £18m spent on Glen Johnson.

[derry]

Good points - we seem to have always lacked width. Even Fernandes never, ever got to the bye-line!!!

 

If we play narrow we allow the full backs and midfielders to tuck in and compact. The central midfielders have no wide targets and either pass back or sideways or hit the strikers who are isolated and outnumbered.

 

Until we play the touchlines and pull the defenders out and create gaps for runners from the middle, we will just be picking up scraps from play and relying on set pieces to score a few goals.

 

Our players aren't good enough to rotate the wide players and until we play a simple wide two banks of four the strikers will have a lean time.

[AlfredKo]

Celtic and Sweden national team are the obvious teams which play with wingers and crossing the ball to the strikers. Samaras, Killen, Larsson, Elmander and Ibrahimovic are handful to any defenders when there are crosses coming inside the box.

[Rebel]

modern wingers are more like wide forwards - using pace and width - but cutting into the box, playing a one-two or putting through a diagonal pass for the striker

 

I've never been keen on seeing players runing for the touchline and then hoofing the ball into the box in hope their is someone on the end of it - normally its the keeper

 

we do need pace and width to get behind teams though and create some goal threats!

[shurlock]

modern wingers are more like wide forwards - using pace and width - but cutting into the box, playing a one-two or putting through a diagonal pass for the striker

 

I've never been keen on seeing players runing for the touchline and then hoofing the ball into the box in hope their is someone on the end of it - normally its the keeper

 

we do need pace and width to get behind teams though and create some goal threats!

 

Sounds like something our former dutch masters would say when selling their 4-2-1-2-1 formation.