dubai_phil Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6390NQ20100410 Stories coming in of shock as many Government Ministers killed in plane crash in Russia.. Very sad story that will no doubt grow and the flippant why did it have to be them instead of some of our lot wouldn't be appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 President, his wife and senior government ministers all killed. It only crashed a few hundred yards short of the runway after clipping trees on the approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langleysaint Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Very sad news , could be a few black arm bands down Shirley high street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Half the country in mourning today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Must be a massive blow for Poland losing half their leaders just like that. Incidentally that aircraft has an appaling safety record. I'm amazed the government of a relatively well developed country, like Poland, is flying it's VIPs around in them. http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/view_manu_details.cgi?aircraft=TU-154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Did wonder why some bloke in my street had a Polish flag hanging out his window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Must be a massive blow for Poland losing half their leaders just like that. Incidentally that aircraft has an appaling safety record. I'm amazed the government of a relatively well developed country, like Poland, is flying it's VIPs around in them. http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/view_manu_details.cgi?aircraft=TU-154 Aren't all Tupolevs just flying coffins anyway, given the Russian engineers and designers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Sad news indeed - lots of my relations will be in mourning over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 10 April, 2010 It's had a devastating effect on the Polish people. My GF and all her friends here have been in a state of shock all day. So many questions as well, not least why did the pilot ignore the ATC advice to divert and then had the wrong descent path and airspeed. Very very sad and leaves you really struggling to find the right thing to say to someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Aren't all Tupolevs just flying coffins anyway, given the Russian engineers and designers? In its day it was a half decent aircraft, although it has never really been 'safe' by Western standards. The problem is it's day was 40 years ago. Russian pilots aren't known for their high standards either if I'm honnest. Russian airliners have crashed because kids were flying the plane and because both pilots were drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 10 April, 2010 In its day it was a half decent aircraft, although it has never really been 'safe' by Western standards. The problem is it's day was 40 years ago. Russian pilots aren't known for their high standards either if I'm honnest. Russian airliners have crashed because kids were flying the plane and because both pilots were drunk. Designed for a different world though. And one minor point - the pilots would have been Polish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Also, I've heard, that although the language of the air is English, some Russian pilots have virtually no knowledge of it. I believe that it has caused untold problems when under or not paid Russian pilots went to fly for other airlines in the middle East and elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Designed for a different world though. And one minor point - the pilots would have been Polish Correct. I was refering to history in general as opposed to this specific incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 10 April, 2010 Correct. I was refering to history in general as opposed to this specific incident. Ex EMEA VP of my ex multi-national tells the tale of his trip in a Babyflot plane. It landed on the runway and the emergency exit door fell into his lap. Apparently it was quite common. The excuse on CNN was they wanted to upgrade to an Airbus or a Boeing but the cost was too high. Always accountants that cause the pain and never carry the blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 10 April, 2010 Share Posted 10 April, 2010 (edited) And the irony is that they were on their way to commemorate the anniversary of hundreds of senior Polish military personel, and others, slaughtered at the hands of the Soviets during WWII - 1940, I believe - (something which had been denied until quite recently). RIP to all those lost, in both sad events. Edited 10 April, 2010 by Minsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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