AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 7 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said: Not really sure how that changes what MLG said tbh Their heart is clearly in the right place, their spending is there The execution is just woeful Their heart is in the multi-club model, and player profit trading. 4
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Their heart is in the multi-club model, and player profit trading. Which 1st team regular players we have made a profit on do you think we should have kept? The only good ones we've had have gone to elite clubs and/or extremely rich and/or in a higher league and it is unrealistic to think they'd stay. Edited 7 hours ago by Matthew Le God
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Matthew Le God said: Which players we have made a profit on do you think we should have kept? The only good ones we've had have gone to elite clubs and/or extremely rich and/or in a higher league and it is unrealistic to think they'd stay. I think that demonstrates their total failure in the transfer market. They are fucking appalling owners, and suggesting 'their heart is in the right place' is quite hilarious to me. Lowe's heart was in the right place, but I doubt anyone would give him such a pass 4
SaintNate Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago We are the laughing stock of the football league and these cunts are the defacto primary reason as to why. 1
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I think that demonstrates their total failure in the transfer market. They are fucking appalling owners, and suggesting 'their heart is in the right place' is quite hilarious to me. Lowe's heart was in the right place, but I doubt anyone would give him such a pass You avoided the question 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Matthew Le God said: You avoided the question I said player trading profits, using Saints as a vehicle to shift players. The CB from France, players signed and immediately given to the Turkish side. Nothing benefits us, but it MAY benefit the 'group' 1
Mboto Gorge Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I think that demonstrates their total failure in the transfer market. They are fucking appalling owners, and suggesting 'their heart is in the right place' is quite hilarious to me. Lowe's heart was in the right place, but I doubt anyone would give him such a pass West Ham spend a fortune most seasons and absolutely hate their owners. I wonder if they’ve got fans telling their fellow supporters that their heart is in the right place
Turkish Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Can anyone think of any benefits we’ve had from this multi club arrangement? I know we were told there were plenty but anyone got any examples?
Turkish Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I said player trading profits, using Saints as a vehicle to shift players. The CB from France, players signed and immediately given to the Turkish side. Nothing benefits us, but it MAY benefit the 'group' £5m is a shit load of money when you’re a French third division team, certainly enough to build a team good enough for promotion. Two of the three centre backs that started for us yesterday cost less than that
Mboto Gorge Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Which 1st team regular players we have made a profit on do you think we should have kept? The only good ones we've had have gone to elite clubs and/or extremely rich and/or in a higher league and it is unrealistic to think they'd stay. Why are you randomly asking him a question which has no relevance to what he said? You’re inventing questions up to throw at people when they’ve not even originally countered what you’re asking. Weird 2
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) Who was that player at the Turkish side, who looked like bit of a beast up front. I am sure we could have really utilised him this season over Downs. There must have been a technical issue as to why he never arrived in the Summer, so I am sure we will see him January 1st. Edited 7 hours ago by AlexLaw76
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: £5m is a shit load of money when you’re a French third division team, certainly enough to build a team good enough for promotion. Two of the three centre backs that started for us yesterday cost less than that 3x their record signing or something right in regards to a received fee? Maybe for the entire division? Signing for a club who will never play him, and really nothing more than giving the French club a leg up (as we are having to make massive cuts ourselves). Edited 7 hours ago by AlexLaw76
Mboto Gorge Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, SaintNate said: We are the laughing stock of the football league and these cunts are the defacto primary reason as to why. Yeah but ignore all that, because apparently their heart is in the right place. Couldn’t make it up with some of these plebs 1
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: I said player trading profits, using Saints as a vehicle to shift players. The CB from France, players signed and immediately given to the Turkish side. Nothing benefits us, but it MAY benefit the 'group' How is signing a very promising player like Kayi Sanda not a benefit Saints? How is selling a player like Juan to Göztepe for a profit, not a benefit for Saints?
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Who was that player at the Turkish side, who looked like bit of a beast up front. I am sure we could have really utilised him this season over Downs. There must have been a technical issue as to why he never arrived in the Summer, so I am sure we will see him January 1st. Just seen he was SOLD to RB Leipzig in the summer, so wont be coming here when we need him. Yeah, heart is in the right place. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: How is signing a very promising player like Kayi Sanda not a benefit Saints? How is selling a player like Juan to Göztepe for a profit, not a benefit for Saints? How is it a benefit for Saints. Looking at the pitch, league table and pretty much every other real-life metric, how do they benefit saints As per many of these inter-club signings, I doubt Sanda will ever play a meaningful game for saints. May make the odd sub appearance in the cup if we draw a League 2 side at home, or make the bench if we have injury crisis in that area whilst trying to plod along with 3 at the back. Anyway, made the point of player profit to the 'group' Edited 7 hours ago by AlexLaw76 3
Turkish Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Who was that player at the Turkish side, who looked like bit of a beast up front. I am sure we could have really utilised him this season over Downs. There must have been a technical issue as to why he never arrived in the Summer, so I am sure we will see him January 1st. Juan? Signed him sent him straight out on loan, they signed him permanently in August I believe. great deal for us 😂 1
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Who was that player at the Turkish side, who looked like bit of a beast up front. I am sure we could have really utilised him this season over Downs. There must have been a technical issue as to why he never arrived in the Summer, so I am sure we will see him January 1st. The player that signed for one of the best teams in Germany in the summer. Edited 7 hours ago by Matthew Le God
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Turkish said: Juan? Signed him sent him straight out on loan, they signed him permanently in August I believe. great deal for us 😂 I was thinning Romulo. But yes, Juan too
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Matthew Le God said: The player that signed for one of the teams in Germany in the summer. You know, there is no need to explain everything.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Just seen he was SOLD to RB Leipzig in the summer, so wont be coming here when we need him. Yeah, heart is in the right place. Why would he agree to join Saints in the Championship rather than RB Leipzig?
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, AlexLaw76 said: I was thinning Romulo. But yes, Juan too Sold for a profit = benefit for Saints
Turkish Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Just seen he was SOLD to RB Leipzig in the summer, so wont be coming here when we need him. Yeah, heart is in the right place. What was his name?
Osvaldorama Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: The player that signed for one of the teams in Germany in the summer. Exactly. These useless cunts are bleeding saints dry and not offering any benefits to us. Saints are effectively funding a load of third rate European clubs and getting nothing in return except relegations and awful performances. Thanks SR! 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Matthew Le God said: Sold for a profit = benefit for Saints how is that working out? 1 1
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: You know, there is no need to explain everything. You asked a question. I answered it. You complain your question was answered.
sfc4prem Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: Sold for a profit = benefit for Saints Depends on how the profit is invested and then how that investment is managed and coached...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Osvaldorama said: Exactly. These useless cunts are bleeding saints dry and not offering any benefits to us. Saints are effectively funding a load of third rate European clubs and getting nothing in return except relegations and awful performances. Thanks SR! Why would he join Championship Saints over RB Leipzig?
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, sfc4prem said: Depends on how the profit is invested and then how that investment is managed and coached... True, but I've never said otherwise.
CB Fry Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Why would he agree to join Saints in the Championship rather than RB Leipzig? Because hed signed a contract with Sports Republic only months before and we're the lead club but of course not they just flog him to Germany anyway like any other club would. Multi club model is fucking pointless and zero benefit to Southampton Football Club. Zero. 7
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: how is that working out? If it formed part of the money for Jander or Scienza would you be questioning it?
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: Why would he join Championship Saints over RB Leipzig? Should have loaned him to us. Kind of like Juan signing for saints to then be 'moved' out to Turkey.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, CB Fry said: Because hed signed a contract with Sports Republic only months before and we're the lead club but of course not they just flog him to Germany anyway like any other club would. Multi club model is fucking pointless and zero benefit to Southampton Football Club. Zero. They can't force him to sign for a 2nd tier English club if he also had an option to join a big club in Germany on bigger wages. Numerous benefits to the multi club model. We've seen some small ones already. With player movement and player loan development. It isn't a short term thing, the big benefits will take time and if you never start them you'll never see them. Some fans are short termist, especially when they see the lub struggling. That does not mean long term plans should all be axed. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago The bloke who wrote this had hopes.... https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/southampton-fc-have-exciting-forward-juan-he-could-save-will-still-millions/
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Should have loaned him to us. Kind of like Juan signing for saints to then be 'moved' out to Turkey. Why would he agree to being loaned to the Championship when he had an offer from RB Leipzig? They can't force him against his will.
CB Fry Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Matthew Le God said: They can't force him to sign for a 2nd tier English club if he also had an option to join a big club in Germany on bigger wages. Numerous benefits to the multi club model. We've seen some small ones already. With player movement and player loan development. It isn't a short term thing, the big benefits will take time and if you never start them you'll never see them. Some fans are short termist, especially when they see the lub struggling. That does not mean long term plans should all be axed. Look what Sport Republic have done with their flagship lead club since they bought it as a ten-year established Premier League club. They're a bunch of fucking useless cunts so spare me the be patient for the long term benefits bullshit. 9
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: They can't force him to sign for a 2nd tier English club if he also had an option to join a big club in Germany on bigger wages. Numerous benefits to the multi club model. We've seen some small ones already. With player movement and player loan development. It isn't a short term thing, the big benefits will take time and if you never start them you'll never see them. Some fans are short termist, especially when they see the lub struggling. That does not mean long term plans should all be axed. we were a decent Premier League club when Sports Republic came in. Now, here we are with their amazingly beneficial multi-club model, we are set for a fantastic future, where we consume the fruits of their labour.... Exciting times. 4
Turkish Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 16 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: 3x their record signing or something right in regards to a received fee? Maybe for the entire division? Signing for a club who will never play him, and really nothing more than giving the French club a leg up (as we are having to make massive cuts ourselves). Something like that. MLG insists it’s a great bit of business for saints, time will tell on that score. When you’ve signed an 18 year old player, loaned him out straight away and got two players in your first team in his postion who cost less I wouldn’t suggest saints are the club who benefited most. At this stage it’s more likely he ends up in Turkey than being the new Liveramento 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: Why would he agree to being loaned to the Championship when he had an offer from RB Leipzig? They can't force him against his will. They seem to be able to get players to move to/through us easily enough....
Osvaldorama Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: They can't force him to sign for a 2nd tier English club if he also had an option to join a big club in Germany on bigger wages. Numerous benefits to the multi club model. We've seen some small ones already. With player movement and player loan development. It isn't a short term thing, the big benefits will take time and if you never start them you'll never see them. Some fans are short termist, especially when they see the lub struggling. That does not mean long term plans should all be axed. You must just be on the wind up. No one can actually be this thick, surely? 2
Turkish Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: They can't force him to sign for a 2nd tier English club if he also had an option to join a big club in Germany on bigger wages. Numerous benefits to the multi club model. We've seen some small ones already. With player movement and player loan development. It isn't a short term thing, the big benefits will take time and if you never start them you'll never see them. Some fans are short termist, especially when they see the lub struggling. That does not mean long term plans should all be axed. It’ll be 4 years in January, it’s been a disaster so far. No one able to come up with any benefits for saints of multi club. So how long term is long term? 5
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago The Japanese lad we have, who has actually looked pretty decent, will probably end up in Turkey in January. Benefit me up....
Mboto Gorge Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Why would he join Championship Saints over RB Leipzig? There is no way you’re not on the clubs payroll or at the very least benefitting some way from the club as a result of your input here (probably the FM researcher gig), the way you tirelessly and endlessly dispute any criticism of them with patronising questioning based on tiny tiny irrelevant questions that deflect away from the fact that these are dreadful owners and any fan with their club at heart would not be happy at how the club is being run, which is blatantly obvious by the fact we’ve had the worst results out of all 92 football league clubs over the past 12-18 months. Yet here we are still having to stomach smart arses like you relentlessly defending the indefensible. All to keep the gig of being the official saints FM researcher? Dont worry, I’m sure the club will be happy at your input here so will renew your contract for another year. Meanwhile the rest of the forum users have to sit here and stomach your endless bollocks. Shame you can’t fuck off for another year , golden saints web era that. Any news on that stadium expansion? Edited 7 hours ago by Mboto Gorge 1
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: You must just be on the wind up. No one can actually be this thick, surely? What did I say in that post that is not true?
Osvaldorama Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: What did I say in that post that is not true? I’m going to do what you do, and ignore your question. You still have named a single benefit of the multi club model for saints.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said: There is no way you’re not on the clubs payroll, the way you tirelessly and endlessly dispute any criticism of them with patronising questioning based on tiny tiny irrelevant questions that deflect away from the fact that these are dreadful owners and any fan with their club at heart would not be happy at how the club is being run, which is blatantly obvious by the fact we’ve had the worst results out of all 92 football league clubs over the past 12-18 months. Yet here we are still having to stomach smart arses like you relentlessly defending the indefensible. All to keep the gig of being the official saints FM researcher? Dont worry, I’m sure the club will be happy at your input here so will renew your contract for another year. Meanwhile the rest of the forum users have to sit here and stomach your endless bollocks. Shame you can’t fuck off for another year , golden saints web era that. Any news on that stadium expansion? 1) You avoided the question. 2) I have criticised Sport Republic numerous times. 3) "All to keep the gig of being the official saints FM researcher? Dont worry, I’m sure the club will be happy at your input here so will renew your contract for another year." Utterly bizarre! The club do not make FM or give me a contract! 4) Yes, there has been a number of stadium expansion pieces of news from the council, club, Solak and Parsons in the past 18 months. Edited 6 hours ago by Matthew Le God
Matthew Le God Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Just now, Osvaldorama said: I’m going to do what you do, and ignore your question. You still have named a single benefit of the multi club model for saints. What question have I avoided? On numerous occasions I have listed benefits of a multi club model. I even listed some in this thread in the last hour. Now answer my question please.
Mboto Gorge Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: 1) You avoided the question. 2) I have criticised Sort Republic numerous times. 3) "All to keep the gig of being the official saints FM researcher? Dont worry, I’m sure the club will be happy at your input here so will renew your contract for another year." Utterly bizarre! The club do not make FM or give me a contract! 4) Yes, there has been a number of stadium expansion pieces of news from the council, club, Solak and Parsons in the past 18 months. 1. You didn’t ask me a question 2.Ive yet to actually see you criticise them, could you point me in the direction of you criticising them please? If you have indeed criticised them, it has a ratio probably in the region of 1/100 against you defending them, which any logically minded person would deduce from that means you’re actually a big fan of them based on your constant defence of them? Would this be fairly accurate? 3. This was the only reason I can think of to think why you’d be seemingly Happy to defend an ownership group that has overseen the worst run of results in the clubs history whilst making mistake after mistake in recruiting players and managers. As I said, any supporter who actually cares about the club, would be very concerned right now about the direction the club is heading in. You appear not to be, which is “utterly bizarre” too. Why is this please? Can you explain why you’re seemingly not concerned? I suspect you’ll reply with “where have I said I’m not concerned?” When it’s fucking obvious from the tone of your questioning that you’re not concerned by the way you’re defending them time after time. So explain why you think the clubs ownership is more positive than negative right now please? 4. so when’s the stadium expansion likely to happen then? Any timescales yet? Your first post about this was probably over a decade ago now
Matthew Le God Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said: This was the only reason I can think of How is it a reason when the club do not make the game? The rest of your post is riddled with strawman fallacies.
Mboto Gorge Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: How is it a reason when the club do not make the game? The rest of your post is riddled with strawman fallacies. “Straw man fallacies” - meaning you don’t want to actually answer them then? Criticises others for not answering supposed questions then just brushes mine away and labels them “strawman fallacies” when he can’t answer them. What an odious little creep you are
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