St. Jason Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 (edited) His comments on The Championship show's he has no knowledge of SFC or sympathy with Saints fans. Wotte "Rupert was not here last year when they (not we?) were in a simliar position, those people (us fans, nice) are very easy with their judgement" Not impressed, not impressed at all! Edited 1 February, 2009 by St. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 His comments on The Championship show's he has no knowledge of SFC or sympathy with Saints fans. Wotte "Rupert was not here last year when they (not we?) were in a simliar position, those people (us fans, nice) are very easy with their with their judgement" Not impressed, not impressed at all!thats what you get from bein rupes blue eyed boy ,next one could be 19 ranteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 1 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2009 thats what you get from bein rupes blue eyed boy ,next one could be 19 ranteen. Blue eyed boy, whats going on with the new suit and scarf, looked a bit stiff to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 He came and looked at the protest before going back inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 His comments on The Championship show's he has no knowledge of SFC or sympathy with Saints fans. Wotte "Rupert was not here last year when they (not we?) were in a simliar position, those people (us fans, nice) are very easy with their with their judgement" Not impressed, not impressed at all! Agreed. Redcrap used to refer to SFC as they / them (instead of we/us) - it's as if they are doing us a ****ing favour (when in fact we are paying them for their failures and mistakes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 His comments on The Championship show's he has no knowledge of SFC or sympathy with Saints fans. Wotte "Rupert was not here last year when they (not we?) were in a simliar position, those people (us fans, nice) are very easy with their with their judgement" Not impressed, not impressed at all! Easy in our judgement, fck off. You've been a key player in a shambles of a season, so please keep your out of touch comments to yourself. No empathy at all with those who keep him in a job. After his comments at the first press conference and other subsequent stuff, I have to say I'm not warming to this guy (then again considering I hold him jointly responsible for our current position, I've never been a fan). Seems as though he has gone to the Lowe School Of Charm and Togetherness.:wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuey Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Ian Holloway was sat by me at the game yesterday........ CHDAJFU???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 FFS you lot. Are you completely brainless? What did you expect him to say? "I think Rupert should go" Whoever is manager has to work within the structure he finds himself. Even your beloved Pearson would be kissing [whoever] the Chairmans arse on camera. I think you've got the balance between being Rupert haters and Southampton supporters wrong. Two games unbeaten (not great, but better than nowt) and you're on his back because of a vox-pop. You need to get a reality check and realise that, at this stage of the season, it is what happens on the pitch that will determine whether or not we survive in this league, not who is in the boardroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 He will turn out to be as clueless as his predecessor... We need a proper manager for this league..been said by many before and will be said again... Must happen before it`s too late and "too late" is approaching rapidly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint ReN Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Must admit, the overall coverage was great but when Wotte came on it made us look even worse. You could look at it this way, he confirmed the clubs views at the moment refering to fans as Us and saying that we have a very poor judgement etc. Laughing stock once again. Any new manager with no idea of the history of the club would not have even commeted on the situation. wotte the f**k:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 FFS you lot. Are you completely brainless? What did you expect him to say? "I think Rupert should go" . Perhaps he should just stick to the football? Just a thought....I would of preferred him to talk about wotte he is going to do to get us out of this mess. He is now involving himself in the politics and he does this at his own peril. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 What did you expect him to say? "I think Rupert should go" Of course not, but I also didn't expect him to come out with a moan saying we are "easy in our judgement". It was a flippant, ill judged and unnecessary comment straight from the same manual Lowe must read before he talks to fans, the press or shareholders. We're not easy in our judgement, we have judged this season purely on the results that Jan, Wotte and others produced under this "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up". A system that he was a key part of, and one that has delivered one home win and has left us floundering in the relegation zone. The only way we may have "been easy in our judgement", may be because it has "been easy to judge" the dire seasion that he and others have presided over to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoozer Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 At least we now have a "Head Coach" who gives instructions while the players on the the pitch. He was in the technical area most of the game which is step up from Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 1 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2009 FFS you lot. Are you completely brainless? What did you expect him to say? "I think Rupert should go" Whoever is manager has to work within the structure he finds himself. Even your beloved Pearson would be kissing [whoever] the Chairmans arse on camera. I think you've got the balance between being Rupert haters and Southampton supporters wrong. Two games unbeaten (not great, but better than nowt) and you're on his back because of a vox-pop. You need to get a reality check and realise that, at this stage of the season, it is what happens on the pitch that will determine whether or not we survive in this league, not who is in the boardroom. No one is expecting Wott to come out and say "i've seen the protest and they are right, Lowe is killing this club and if didn't have this game to sort out I'd be out there with them" but you'd of thought that, as ultimately he is working for us, he just keep quite or a bit diplomatic, how about "I can see what the fans frustration are, we've only won once at home, its not good enough, but i'm sure with a couple of wins I can change the atmosphere here" Brainless? Mug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 No one is expecting Wott to come out and say "i've seen the protest and they are right, Lowe is killing this club and if didn't have this game to sort out I'd be out there with them" but you'd of thought that, as ultimately he is working for us, he just keep quite or a bit diplomatic, how about "I can see what the fans frustration are, we've only won once at home, its not good enough, but i'm sure with a couple of wins I can change the atmosphere here" Brainless? Mug! Or even "my job is to win matches and manage the team. I don't want to get involved in outside issues which don't concern me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 1 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Or even "my job is to win matches and manage the team. I don't want to get involved in outside issues which don't concern me." Not that difficult to be diplomatic is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 It came across to me as if he was only interested what was happening on the pitch. Could have been a bit more diplomatic maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 No one is expecting Wott to come out and say "i've seen the protest and they are right, Lowe is killing this club and if didn't have this game to sort out I'd be out there with them" but you'd of thought that, as ultimately he is working for us, he just keep quite or a bit diplomatic, how about "I can see what the fans frustration are, we've only won once at home, its not good enough, but i'm sure with a couple of wins I can change the atmosphere here" Brainless? Mug! Why dont you try saying all that in Dutch now and see if you get the exact message across to inform all of what you mean. No, I cant either. Whether you agree with him or not its nice to have a manager that speaks his mind. I hope he is the same to the players. Also, when he said they when talking of Saints it was about a period in time before he was working here so maybe he got confused about how to discuss it in his second language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 To be fair he was correct about last season.He woould be loyal to RL who has given him the job. The wording was not meant to be offensive to the fans(E£nglish is not his first language and his interpretation is not what ours may be) because if you listened to his interview after the game he praised the fans. Ump Im surprised you are trying to undermine him so quickly, i like yourself are not overewhelmed by him but he has already changed some things and the fight fire and desire are there. Give him 3 more games to give him a little slack.I understand you associate him with Lowe but dont be fooled by LC's cosying up to some on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 He would have looked better if he ditched the scarf and borrowed one of Bally's cloth caps imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Ump Im surprised you are trying to undermine him so quickly, i like yourself are not overewhelmed by him but he has already changed some things and the fight fire and desire are there.Give him 3 more games to give him a little slack. I'm not trying to undermine him, just calling it as I see it. His little ditty was totally unnecessary and given our current position he would have been better off biting his tongue. As for giving him time, I will always support the manager until he is no longer viable, but I also don't buy into this "brand new start" in much the same way I never bought into the "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up", not least because Wotte was a key part of what has got us into this awful predicament. He can't now absolve himself from any blame and try and pin it on Poortvliet. I may have questioned Poortvliet's embellished CV and questioned as to whether he was the right man for the job, but I supported him as manager and wanted him to succeed. The same goes for Wotte. I understand you associate him with Lowe I associate him results on the pitch and will judge him by his deeds and actions. I have an opinion of him and I don't think he is the right man for us (for a number of reasons), but ultimately I will only judge him by what he achieves with regards results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 (edited) His comments on The Championship show's he has no knowledge of SFC or sympathy with Saints fans. Wotte "Rupert was not here last year when they (not we?) were in a simliar position, those people (us fans, nice) are very easy with their judgement" Not impressed, not impressed at all! It mirrors his veiled criticism of Crouch at his unveiling ceremony last Monday. He needs to be careful. Being Lowe's mouthpiece is a very dangerous thing to do nowadays. Alienate the fans all you like Wotte, but some will always know more about you than you realise. This is likely to be a major problem. Wotte's comments will drive a wedge between him/Lowe and the fans. He's very very very foolish. Coaches and manager should keep quiet and not get involved in boardroom business, they need to act as a barrier between the boardroom and the team - not be an extension of Club politics. Very foolish. So far Wotte has hinted that the finances are all Crouch's fault and now its going to be the fans fault we relegate... and all within a week.... tell me ... who do you think that sounds like? Personally, I still think he's showing all the evidence of being the next draw-tastic Wigley. Wotte Out. Lowe Out. It is now the only way. We can still save this Club from relegation with Crouch's money, loanees back and a real manager. Edited 1 February, 2009 by SaintRobbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 1 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Why dont you try saying all that in Dutch now and see if you get the exact message across to inform all of what you mean. No, I cant either. Whether you agree with him or not its nice to have a manager that speaks his mind. I hope he is the same to the players. Also, when he said they when talking of Saints it was about a period in time before he was working here so maybe he got confused about how to discuss it in his second language. Tell you what John, when i get a job in Holland wrking for a Dutch employer needing to talk to Dutch media then I'll worry about that. He didn't seem to be confused to me, he spoke excellent english and to me meant and knew what he was saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 His comments on The Championship show's he has no knowledge of SFC or sympathy with Saints fans. Wotte "Rupert was not here last year when they (not we?) were in a simliar position, those people (us fans, nice) are very easy with their judgement" Not impressed, not impressed at all! Couldnt give a shiite if he has the wherewithall to keep us up this season. Quite happy to tolerate a few Lowe-like verbal swipes whilst he sets about rescuing us. In the meantime we can sharpen our knives ready for Autumn next season when it finally dawns on him how little support he can expect from Lowe and the results start failing following a summer of sales and piiiss-poor replacements being bought. In a way, I quite dig the no-nonsense "I'm the boss" attitude he appears to bring bringing to the role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I'm not trying to undermine him, just calling it as I see it. His little ditty was totally unnecessary and given our current position he would have been better off biting his tongue. As for giving him time, I will always support the manager until he is no longer viable, but I also don't buy into this "brand new start" in much the same way I never bought into the "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up", not least because Wotte was a key part of what has got us into this awful predicament. He can't now absolve himself from any blame and try and pin it on Poortvliet. I may have questioned Poortvliet's embellished CV and questioned as to whether he was the right man for the job, but I supported him as manager and wanted him to succeed. The same goes for Wotte. I associate him results on the pitch and will judge him by his deeds and actions. I have an opinion of him and I don't think he is the right man for us (for a number of reasons), but ultimately I will only judge him by what he achieves with regards results. I must have misunderstood the tone of your post UM.Im pleased that you will like myself will give him a bit of time.We are both sceptical but he was not making the poor tactical decisions Jan did and so we hope he will do enough.His interviews have impressed me, and the players showed unity yesterday andas i posted the other day, the mood inthe camp was good and they were talking tatics something that apparently didnt go on before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 He can talk as much drivel as he likes if he keeps us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 1 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2009 To be fair he was correct about last season.He woould be loyal to RL who has given him the job. The wording was not meant to be offensive to the fans(E£nglish is not his first language and his interpretation is not what ours may be) because if you listened to his interview after the game he praised the fans. Ump Im surprised you are trying to undermine him so quickly, i like yourself are not overewhelmed by him but he has already changed some things and the fight fire and desire are there. Give him 3 more games to give him a little slack.I understand you associate him with Lowe but dont be fooled by LC's cosying up to some on here. I still dont get how he's been mis-quoted are lost in translation "those paople are easy to judge" pretty balck and white to me mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Couldnt give a shiite if he has the wherewithall to keep us up this season. Quite happy to tolerate a few Lowe-like verbal swipes whilst he sets about rescuing us. In the meantime we can sharpen our knives ready for Autumn next season when it finally dawns on him how little support he can expect from Lowe and the results star failing following a summer of sales and piiiss-poor replacements being bought. In a way, I quite dig the no-nonsense "I'm the boss" attitude he appears to bring bringing to the roleI am pleasantly surprised, you are ging to support the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Couldnt give a shiite if he has the wherewithall to keep us up this season. Quite happy to tolerate a few Lowe-like verbal swipes whilst he sets about rescuing us. But he wont rescue us. He is just another Lowe puppet. And now he has alienated the fans... that blokes not going to save us, he's a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommi Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 The thing that makes me laugh about this forum is that 90% of you see everything in one dimension only. Every single comment, quote, picture, goal, refereeing decision, pint in a plastic cup, tea with not enough milk in is manipulated against Rupert, Wotte, JP whoever.... Whilst I don't agree with how the club is being run and who is in charge of team affairs etc I'm still mature enough to be able to distinguish between our predicament and reality. Wotte is 100% correct in what he said - look at the posistion we were in last season, the facts are there in black and white for all to see. tossers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I am pleasantly surprised, you are ging to support the manager. I made it perfectly clear this is a temporary state of affairs, and also I reserve the right to change my mind at any time should he continue selecting waanky starting line-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Wotte has certainly made a rod for his own back with his comments. He may well endear himself with the Lowe/Wilde axis though and i guess they are the only people he is bothered about sucking up to. Jan Portvliet didn't like him and i can see why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 The thing that makes me laugh about this forum is that 90% of you see everything in one dimension only. Every single comment, quote, picture, goal, refereeing decision, pint in a plastic cup, tea with not enough milk in is manipulated against Rupert, Wotte, JP whoever.... Whilst I don't agree with how the club is being run and who is in charge of team affairs etc I'm still mature enough to be able to distinguish between our predicament and reality. Wotte is 100% correct in what he said - look at the posistion we were in last season, the facts are there in black and white for all to see. tossers But to say we are too quick to judge is incorrect. We have been remarkably tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I must have misunderstood the tone of your post UM.Im pleased that you will like myself will give him a bit of time.We are both sceptical but he was not making the poor tactical decisions Jan did and so we hope he will do enough. He was complicit with what went on before, so sorry. but I don't buy this "Let's hang Jan out to dry" philosophy. His interviews have impressed me, They have not impressed me and I think he is treading a dangerous line by involving himself in the politics of the Club and making cheap comments about the supporters. If he cannot empathise with supporters, then he would be better off talking about football only. It never worked last time when Lowe wheeled out Burley, Claus & others to try and drum up support for his failing regime and it won't work this time. Wotte is allied to Lowe, that much is obvious, and understandable, but the best way forward for him would be to get points on the board as opposed to scoring cheap points in interviews. and the players showed unity yesterday andas i posted the other day, the mood inthe camp was good and they were talking tatics something that apparently didnt go on before And we have heard that a million times in recent months. It wasn't long ago that we were told everything was rosey and bright times were just around the corner, so please excuse me if I prefer to ignore such platitudes and instead judge people on their deeds and not their words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 The thing that makes me laugh about this forum is that 90% of you see everything in one dimension only. Every single comment, quote, picture, goal, refereeing decision, pint in a plastic cup, tea with not enough milk in is manipulated against Rupert, Wotte, JP whoever.... Whilst I don't agree with how the club is being run and who is in charge of team affairs etc I'm still mature enough to be able to distinguish between our predicament and reality. Wotte is 100% correct in what he said - look at the posistion we were in last season, the facts are there in black and white for all to see. tossers Here are the facts of this time last season. League position? Midtable. Financial position...? about to be offered a buyout by SISU that arguably would have paid off the near successful gamble to get back into the Premiership (8 months preiously) and at least see us in a similar midtable position as Coventry with possibly a decent manager. But the decision was.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I made it perfectly clear this is a temporary state of affairs, and also I reserve the right to change my mind at any time should he continue selecting waanky starting line-ups. Im fine with that Alps, if you give someone a chance to before making judgements. Im in the same camp, I am not at al impressed but his first few interviews and the teams desire has heartened me.For the first time in a few weeks i feel we can survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 His comments on The Championship show's he has no knowledge of SFC or sympathy with Saints fans. Wotte "Rupert was not here last year when they (not we?) were in a simliar position, those people (us fans, nice) are very easy with their judgement" Not impressed, not impressed at all! Have you read this thread.... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=9187 There's a fair few people who are pretty easy with their judgement on it. One minute we're ****, one minute we're okay. It only take a goal for the opposition for the end of the world to be here and it only takes a goal for Saints for the play off to be a possibility. That's how it has always been on this site, and if this site represents fans, then what Wotte says is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Here are the facts of this time last season. League position? Midtable. Financial position...? about to be offered a buyout by SISU that arguably would have paid off the near successful gamble to get back into the Premiership (8 months preiously) and at least see us in a similar midtable position as Coventry with possibly a decent manager. But the decision was....LC took over and appointed G&D I see your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I was totally unimpressed when Twotte got the job, my first thoughts were same old same, two games this week he has done nothing to change my mind and I am more certain than ever that we are heading for relegation, again!!. Off course Twotte will say the things like he has just said he is in love with Lowe,prior to JP leaving Twotte always watched games from the directors box sat holding hands with Lowe, that is the only reason he is in the job not because of his football management knowledge. Untill we get a manager who understands championship football and what is required we are just going to stumble through the rest of the season as we stumbled through the first half under JP. The only difference between Saints under JP and Saints under Twotte is JP told the players to go out and play football and Twotte tells them to go out and kick f@@k out of the opposition,( Which is why LM got red carded yesterday , and he could have been joined by Wotton). We need a a manager who knows how to play fair aggressive championship football , Mark Wotte is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 But to say we are too quick to judge is incorrect. We have been remarkably tolerant. I think that is absolutely spot on. And what's more I think the fans have now lost what little tolerance we had. I think the protest is but the tip of the iceberg of continuing displays of intolerance, and evidently given the police presence yesterday - so do the neutral Hampshire Constabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 I was totally unimpressed when Twotte got the job, my first thoughts were same old same, two games this week he has done nothing to change my mind and I am more certain than ever that we are heading for relegation, again!!. Off course Twotte will say the things like he has just said he is in love with Lowe,prior to JP leaving Twotte always watched games from the directors box sat holding hands with Lowe, that is the only reason he is in the job not because of his football management knowledge. Untill we get a manager who understands championship football and what is required we are just going to stumble through the rest of the season as we stumbled through the first half under JP. The only difference between Saints under JP and Saints under Twotte is JP told the players to go out and play football and Twotte tells them to go out and kick f@@k out of the opposition,( Which is why LM got red carded yesterday , and he could have been joined by Wotton). We need a a manager who knows how to play fair aggressive championship football , Mark Wotte is not the answer.What nonsense.The players were showing desire and passion something fans have wished for.The players were up for it.The Molyneux sending off was due to stupidity.Wotton would not be drawn in his interview but the players were not happy with him for that tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Have you read this thread..... So during a match fans experience the highs and lows, the emotion of winning and losing, the anguish of a sloppy goal and the delight and joy of an equaliser. Fck me, have you ever been to a football match????? Even after it's ended the passion, anger, desire and joy are still there for quite a while. Of course you're going to get knee jerk reactions (both ways), because after all this is football, a passionate game steeped in history, passion, pride and a community spirit. But away fromt the matchday passion, the wider long term feeling amongst many Saints fans aren't knee jerk, but instead they are considered rational and objectively held, so to suggest we are "very easy in our judgement" is somewhat objectionable and not in the least necessary in current circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Tell you what John, when i get a job in Holland wrking for a Dutch employer needing to talk to Dutch media then I'll worry about that. He didn't seem to be confused to me, he spoke excellent english and to me meant and knew what he was saying! Football is becoming too soft mate. Brian Clough would have spoke his mind and the only people that would have had a go at him would be the prawn sandwich brigade at the FA. Now it seems we want everyone to be nice and verbally w@nk us off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 What nonsense.The players were showing desire and passion something fans have wished for.The players were up for it.The Molyneux sending off was due to stupidity.Wotton would not be drawn in his interview but the players were not happy with him for that tackle. Molecule's sending off was due to youthful inexperience and being wound up for a win. The latter I can almost forgive. But how many other times have we seen kids sent off for the same thing this season? This is not new it is a constant pattern. JP was crap, Wotte is crap. They are part of the same set up. I don't see any miracles under Wotte only the rumour that Lowe has already lined up his replacement when we relegate. Wotte a way to run a Club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Molecule's sending off was due to youthful inexperience and being wound up for a win. The latter I can almost forgive. But how many other times have we seen kids sent off for the same thing this season? This is not new it is a constant pattern. JP was crap, Wotte is crap. They are part of the same set up. I don't see any miracles under Wotte only the rumour that Lowe has already lined up his replacement when we relegate. Wotte a way to run a Club! Judge him on his results as manager Robbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 No need to get to worked up about him, he'll be gone in a few months once he's relegated us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 1 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Have you read this thread.... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=9187 There's a fair few people who are pretty easy with their judgement on it. One minute we're ****, one minute we're okay. It only take a goal for the opposition for the end of the world to be here and it only takes a goal for Saints for the play off to be a possibility. That's how it has always been on this site, and if this site represents fans, then what Wotte says is true. Wotte's comments were aimed at the protesters, he was talking about the stance held towards Lowe. That is what I have issue with, fans aren't p1ssed because of the last 8 months, this feeling towards Lowe is years old. Personally I feel that far from being "easy to judge" us fans have been remarkably tolerant and supportive of the new set up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 What nonsense.The players were showing desire and passion something fans have wished for.The players were up for it.The Molyneux sending off was due to stupidity.Wotton would not be drawn in his interview but the players were not happy with him for that tackle. Lee Molyneux is a very young and very inexperienced player and with Twottes words ringing in his ears to get stuck in and be more aggresive he overstepped the mark , but he did it trying to please his manager. It was obvious from the way we played yesterday and from the comments coming out of the Swansea camp that Twotte had sent the players out to get stuck in first and foremost. IMO that is why we went down to 10 men and as i said on another day we could have gone down to nine. I am all for a bit of aggression in the team if it is allied to the football , playing as we did yesterday and last tuesday is not going to keep us up. Twotte will not keep us up, and going on todays comments he has lost a large percentage of the fans support already , not that he ever had mine as he is just Lowes ****** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Wotte's comments were aimed at the protesters, he was talking about the stance held towards Lowe. That is what I have issue with, fans aren't p1ssed because of the last 8 months, this feeling towards Lowe is years old. Personally I feel that far from being "easy to judge" us fans have been remarkably tolerant and supportive of the new set up! Jason can you put up a transcript of his inverview because it was not how i took it.I was pleasnly surprised that the march came over so well and they werent used as performing monkeys, by getting them to sing OWTS etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 February, 2009 Share Posted 1 February, 2009 Wouldn't go so far as saying impressed but fact is he has done ok so far. He seems to have changed line up and spirit for the better. Team seemed more confident yesterday -which after one win couldn't be easy. Suggest lay off the criticisms purely due to who employed him and see how he gets on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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