Sold To The Man @ The Bar Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 When I finally got home last night, after 8 or so pints of anaesthetic and a couple off the top shelf I was past caring about the day and what I and about 1000 others had witnessed. Having just risen from my pit and the current "Mrs Sold To The Man @ The Bar" asked me to talk about yesterday, it has just hit me that I watched my club, as I know it die.. The Southampton I follow would not have let this happen, it wouldn’t have let it get itself relegated, it would have fought on the pitch, battled and punched its way to a win. The Southampton I follow would have players who know what being a Saint is all about, The Southampton I follow is dead !! I have just had a text from Didcot Saint (Thanks for driving yesterday) it reads “Mate I have woken up mullered. I am absolutely gutted” You know what, I still love it, it may be dead, but it’s my dead thing and it’s memory will live on … who knows, a new Southampton Football Club may take its place starting in August and I will be there to hold its hand seeing it through those early days, it may just grow up to be bigger and stronger, let’s hope so !! SFC is dead Long live SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 I have been awake from 4 oclock this morning fretting about our club.I cant beleive the team were so gutless yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 mate it was shocking i just cant take any more. Heartbroken saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 There was not one player out on that pitch yesterday up for the fight or even showed they cared about SFC, they didnt do their fans justice at all, they will all be gone in a couple of weeks and to be honest I couldnt care anymore. Give me 11 lads up for the fight, not great players but who can show passion, commitment, enthusiasm and urgency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Horne Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 There was not one player out on that pitch yesterday up for the fight or even showed they cared about SFC, they didnt do their fans justice at all, they will all be gone in a couple of weeks and to be honest I couldnt care anymore. Give me 11 lads up for the fight, not great players but who can show passion, commitment, enthusiasm and urgency. Oh for a team full of Benalis, Marsdens, Hurlocks and Monkous. What would we give for just a touch of an MLT, a Dodd, a Beattie or a Pahars? What we've needed this season is a sqaud of players who wear the shirt with pride. Players who crawl off the pitch at the end of the match because they can't give any more. With the odd excpetion, we've been let down time after time. It's all so desperately disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 The team have no fear of the management. If they thought for one moment they would have been brought straight back to Staplewood for a two hour training session, then absolutely murdered in training this morning. They would have looked at things differently. There has to be a fear factor with the manager as the bottom line. The board has to be part of this too making the players realise the manager is fireproof, and it's 100% or pain and fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 Can we really blame the players? The senior ones have been inside throughout the disastrous Lowe experiment, seen a very good manager got rid of, two Dutch clowns brought in, seen Lowe make every attempt to get rid of them, not play them to avoid paying them appearance and win bonuses. Seen the backbone of a good team lost. What motivation can they have left? The youngsters probably thougt in their naivety that they could succeed, but grim reality will have finally dawned, they were far too inexperienced, although individually talented. Their confidence will have been shattered, but hopefully not beyond repair. It is some of these who may bear the brunt of the experiment's failure, reputations ruined, confidence shattered; somemay have their careers finished. Will any of these retain the enthusiasm and morale left to avoid relegation? Would any of us on the inside of a company mismanaged by a fool, and in its death throes, really be able to muster any enthusiasm to provide our best work. I think not. We would be concentrating on finding new jobs and getting out intact! Saints will be relegated. We must hope that we survive, get good new owners,and that the club comes good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Trubble Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 Oh for a team full of Benalis, Marsdens, Hurlocks and Monkous. What would we give for just a touch of an MLT, a Dodd, a Beattie or a Pahars? What we've needed this season is a sqaud of players who wear the shirt with pride. Players who crawl off the pitch at the end of the match because they can't give any more. With the odd excpetion, we've been let down time after time. It's all so desperately disappointing. True, despite their lack of ability in comparison to others on the pitch in their era they would have sweat blood to win, not just for the Saints but because that was their character; we just don't have players of that ilk anymore. Benali would have bust a gut yesterday and I can just picture him now chasing every ball and raising the passion in others with his enthusiasm, mind you, he would probbaly have got sent off yesterday too:D Marsden too, well will we ever see his kind in a Saints shirt again? A rough diamond if ever there was one and a talisman figure, he just seemed to have that innate ability to inspire; he had that presence and we've got some god kids at the club but we just don't have that leader that they can turn to when they are having a 'mare, someone that can just tell them what they are doing wrong and where they need to be on the pitch, we just don't have a natural leader of Marsdens like. I fully empathise with how you feel after yesterday, I can stand losing but not like that. It was pitiful and an utter shameful, no fight, no balls, no pride, no passsion and no idea. Please let a buyer come into this club and take it by the scruff of the neck and take us back to the club we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 Can we really blame the players? The senior ones have been inside throughout the disastrous Lowe experiment, seen a very good manager got rid of, two Dutch clowns brought in, seen Lowe make every attempt to get rid of them, not play them to avoid paying them appearance and win bonuses. Seen the backbone of a good team lost. What motivation can they have left? The youngsters probably thougt in their naivety that they could succeed, but grim reality will have finally dawned, they were far too inexperienced, although individually talented. Their confidence will have been shattered, but hopefully not beyond repair. It is some of these who may bear the brunt of the experiment's failure, reputations ruined, confidence shattered; somemay have their careers finished. Will any of these retain the enthusiasm and morale left to avoid relegation? Would any of us on the inside of a company mismanaged by a fool, and in its death throes, really be able to muster any enthusiasm to provide our best work. I think not. We would be concentrating on finding new jobs and getting out intact! Saints will be relegated. We must hope that we survive, get good new owners,and that the club comes good again. Well said that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 The Southampton I know went down as bottom club a few years ago. It also went down in 1973. Without MLT the Southampton I know probably would fallen out of the top flight even sooner. The Southampton I know struggled to go back in the 70's despite keeping players like Mike Channon. Rose tinted glases? It hasn't all been plain sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 Can we really blame the players? Yes. For that gutless, inept, spineless, poncy display yesterday - the players should shoulder ALL the blame. Once they crossed that white line - bearing in mind Wotte & several players gobbed-off about being "up for it" beforehand - they failed miserably. The 'Dopey Dutchman' hasn't helped matters of course. "Let's get Shot of Wotte". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 You can't freeze a moment in time and say 'thats the Southampton I know' then jettison any other representation of the club. Football is a competition and, as such, teams will win and lose. Clubs are fluid and will go through good times and bad. We had 27 years of good times in the top flight, have the cojones to put up with 5 bad years. Seriously, we have a bunch of big girls for fans. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 You can't freeze a moment in time and say 'thats the Southampton I know' then jettison any other representation of the club. Football is a competition and, as such, teams will win and lose. Clubs are fluid and will go through good times and bad. We had 27 years of good times in the top flight, have the cojones to put up with 5 bad years. Seriously, we have a bunch of big girls for fans. Get over it. I know where you are coming from. There seem to be many here who think we were some kind of super team and have a God given right to be in the premiership. We have had a handful of really good seasons, plenty of average ons and some down right poor seasons (with better players than we have now). Leeds have a far more glorious past than us but have fared worse recently. You evolve or you die. We haven't been able to deal with the loss of money (and fans) since relegation so we are currently "dying". It is currently happening to plenty of similar clubs around us. No it is not nice, but we are not the only ones suffering and we are not immune to the affects of relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 SFC is dead Long live SFC SLH plc is dead. Long Live SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 SLH plc is dead. Long Live SFC. You seem to miss the point. With SLH plc dying so too could SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 I woke up this morning covered in my own vomit. Mrs Wiltshire Saint had slept in the spare room because the stench was overwhelming. She has been rather corss with me today. She asked what happened for me to get into the state I was in and I just broke down and cried. I told her all about how we lost yesterday and now we were almost certainly going down. I told her all about administration and how I might see the club I love go out of existence. I told her about how we used to battle and beat relegation on numerous occasions. She told me to clean the sick up and stop being a tw*t. She called me a baby and said "it's only football and you sound sh*t anyway and deserve to go down". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 I woke up this morning covered in my own vomit. Mrs Wiltshire Saint had slept in the spare room because the stench was overwhelming. She has been rather corss with me today. She asked what happened for me to get into the state I was in and I just broke down and cried. I told her all about how we lost yesterday and now we were almost certainly going down. I told her all about administration and how I might see the club I love go out of existence. I told her about how we used to battle and beat relegation on numerous occasions. She told me to clean the sick up and stop being a tw*t. She called me a baby and said "it's only football and you sound sh*t anyway and deserve to go down". At least Mrs WS seems to have summed up the situation then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 I woke up this morning covered in my own vomit. Mrs Wiltshire Saint had slept in the spare room because the stench was overwhelming. She has been rather corss with me today. She asked what happened for me to get into the state I was in and I just broke down and cried. I told her all about how we lost yesterday and now we were almost certainly going down. I told her all about administration and how I might see the club I love go out of existence. I told her about how we used to battle and beat relegation on numerous occasions. She told me to clean the sick up and stop being a tw*t. She called me a baby and said "it's only football and you sound sh*t anyway and deserve to go down". What does a woman know about football eh:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sold To The Man @ The Bar Posted 19 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 April, 2009 I woke up this morning covered in my own vomit. Mrs Wiltshire Saint had slept in the spare room because the stench was overwhelming. She has been rather corss with me today. She asked what happened for me to get into the state I was in and I just broke down and cried. I told her all about how we lost yesterday and now we were almost certainly going down. I told her all about administration and how I might see the club I love go out of existence. I told her about how we used to battle and beat relegation on numerous occasions. She told me to clean the sick up and stop being a tw*t. She called me a baby and said "it's only football and you sound sh*t anyway and deserve to go down". A very perceptive woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 What does a woman know about football eh:p Precisely :smt119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 You seem to miss the point. With SLH plc dying so too could SFC. You seem to forget the 35 plus applications (x3 'serious') to buy SFC. We'll be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harwellsaint Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 When I finally got home last night, after 8 or so pints of anaesthetic and a couple off the top shelf I was past caring about the day and what I and about 1000 others had witnessed. Having just risen from my pit and the current "Mrs Sold To The Man @ The Bar" asked me to talk about yesterday, it has just hit me that I watched my club, as I know it die.. The Southampton I follow would not have let this happen, it wouldn’t have let it get itself relegated, it would have fought on the pitch, battled and punched its way to a win. The Southampton I follow would have players who know what being a Saint is all about, The Southampton I follow is dead !! I have just had a text from Didcot Saint (Thanks for driving yesterday) it reads “Mate I have woken up mullered. I am absolutely gutted” You know what, I still love it, it may be dead, but it’s my dead thing and it’s memory will live on … who knows, a new Southampton Football Club may take its place starting in August and I will be there to hold its hand seeing it through those early days, it may just grow up to be bigger and stronger, let’s hope so !! SFC is dead Long live SFC And i will be there along side you, my bro and every other saint top man , uts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 The team have no fear of the management. If they thought for one moment they would have been brought straight back to Staplewood for a two hour training session, then absolutely murdered in training this morning. They would have looked at things differently. There has to be a fear factor with the manager as the bottom line. The board has to be part of this too making the players realise the manager is fireproof, and it's 100% or pain and fines. Unfortunately, these days players have little fear. They have agents. If they're not happy at a club, they simply pick up the phone and ask him to manufacture a move. In the past, managers could rule by fear, helpd by the fact that pre-Bosman, players were tied to a club until that club wanted to get rid of him. Now, if a player is hauled over coals or given a billocking by the manager, his first thoughts are not likely to be reflections on whether it was justified. Players aren't big on looking at themselves and their performances these days. They have too many sycophants hanging on their coattails, constantly bigging them up. They get this from an early stage in their football development and the result is that at the first set back or adversity, they don't know how to handle it. They can't take criticism, so they run to their agents and ask for a move. "What about Fergie?" I hear you say. "He rules by fear." Yes he does. The fear of being bombed out by the biggest club in the world, that's the thing Man Utd players fear. Otherwise, getting the best out of players these days is all about playing on and exploiting their professional and personal pride. It doesn't appear as though Saints players have any, and perhaps that's not surprising. Could you motivate yourself to work your socks off for an organisation that even if if exists in three months time, will probably be ushering you out the door as a means of raising money? Any argument fans might produce that they pay their wages is water off a duck's back to them. So what? In three months, a year, whatever, they'll be off where another set of mugs will pay their wages. Gutless? Maybe. Uncaring? Probably. You're looking at a group of unmotivated players with weak mentalities, coached by somebody incapable of getting into their minds and finding a means of motivating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supaimpy_returns Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 from the look of some of this team , there will be no takers, and the dole queue for unemployed footballers will be longer this year with plenty of clubs close to the edge, you'd think they'd be playing out of their skins to get an offer to continue in their chosen cosseted career. no wonder so many of them forget the simple things in life such as a driving license, car insurance, they'll find it a shock working 40 hrs a week stacking shelves. kd will get an offer I'm sure, hopefully from SFC 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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