Trouble this season

[Amesbury Saint]

I have seen more crowd trouble this season involving Saints fans than all my other years watching Saints put together.

 

I know I have been somewhat sheltered from it by only going to home matches and the very occassional away match.

 

Anyway - has there been more incidents involving Saints fans this season or just me noticing it more.

 

BTW - they had Police horses at Barnsley yesterday to keep the two fans apart.

[Griffo]

There's pitch invasions at every club when they go up, sometimes when they go down. A large percentage of people will always go over to away fans.

 

But to me it seems like there has been a fair share more trouble home and away than there has been before. We are policed as a 'Category C' nowadays meaning we have the same levels of policing as Cardiff, Stoke etc.

[sambosa75]

We have turned into a club that has a lot of fans with chips on their shoulder and a big-club delusion complex. As a result, when things dont go our way, we have a large proportion of knuckle draggers that like to start trouble with the away fans.

 

Which is funny because by and large, away from home we are a well behaved club generally and in my experience only kick off when provoked.

[scally]

Lucky you weren't around in the 70's and 80's then, Bristol Rovers when we lost 2-0 in the cup, 84 the semi against Everton at Highbury, anytime we went to Brighton and just about any home game. Today is pretty lame compared to the bad old days, at least you can go to most away games and put on a Saints shirt, doing that in the old days you would of had all kinds of grief. Football today is far more civilised than it was 20 years ago, thank god.

[Whitey Grandad]

Yesterday was nothing compared with what we had to endure at Pride Park.

[docker-p]

they had Police horses at Barnsley yesterday to keep the two fans apart.

Police hoses to keep just two fans apart. 'kin'ell:smt119

[ecuk268]

Police hoses to keep just two fans apart. 'kin'ell:smt119

 

Water cannon as well as horses??

[Charlie2008]

Lucky you weren't around in the 70's and 80's then, Bristol Rovers when we lost 2-0 in the cup, 84 the semi against Everton at Highbury, anytime we went to Brighton and just about any home game. Today is pretty lame compared to the bad old days, at least you can go to most away games and put on a Saints shirt, doing that in the old days you would of had all kinds of grief. Football today is far more civilised than it was 20 years ago, thank god.

 

I also remember some quite volatile matches vs. Birmingham City at the Dell especially one year after the last home game of the season (?80s).

 

The Highbury semi-final vs. Everton in 84 was a particularly bad example and probably the worst I have experienced.

 

This season's 'handbags' pale into insignificance...

[chocco boxo]

In the 70's I am sure that Police cordon would have been breached, the lot today like to posture and attack small groups in large numbers it seems?

[Block 5]

What trouble are you talking about this season?

I can't remember anything other than yesterday's last home game high spirits.

How about Palarse away last season?

That was worse than anything I've seen this season.

[70's Mike]

can only see it getting worst as we will be one of the bigger clubs in Div 1 , large following both home and away with tickets readily available to all , wheras in our premiership days tickets were limited and groups of mates sitting together very difficult because of season ticket/members buying the majority of tickets

[70's Mike]

i also remember some quite volatile matches vs. Birmingham city at the dell especially one year after the last home game of the season (?80s).

 

The highbury semi-final vs. Everton in 84 was a particularly bad example and probably the worst i have experienced.

 

This season's 'handbags' pale into insignificance...

 

zulus

[SaintDonkey]

Ignoring the people who respond to every thread which mentions trouble around matches with a nostalgic "oh it was nothing you should have been here when..." (seriously guys stop talking about eighties hooliganism as if it were a golden age) and ignoring those irrelevently citing trouble at other grounds (it's about increasing troubles at St Mary's - not about anywhere else) and actually replying to the original post.

 

Yes. I've seen more trouble associated with Saints matches this season than any season before, and considering I've been to fewer matches this season than any other season in the last decade either we have a growng problem or I've been tremondously unlucky.

 

Please don't be apologists ('it was just high spirits'), nostalgists ('if you think this is bad you should have been around in the 80s') or competative ('we're not nearly as bad as that lot from...'). Violence at or associated with Southampton matches is an increasing problem and the sooner we admit this to ourselves the better.