OVER THE HILL Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 (edited) The order was endorsed by the Home Secretary Teresa May according to this article in the Daily Telegraph. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8873403/Theresa-May-to-face-questions-over-order-to-relax-border-checks.html Edited 7 November, 2011 by OVER THE HILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 That is why Teresa is fuming about it and has suspended the chief of the border force. You really must try harder my Marxist friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 And when did Teresa replace William Hague? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 That is why Teresa is fuming about it and has suspended the chief of the border force. You really must try harder my Marxist friend. But that would be her reaction if caught out, wouldn't it. Smokescreen, bluff call it what you will. I bet that, at the end of the day, they find a memo with her signature on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 But that would be her reaction if caught out, wouldn't it. Smokescreen, bluff call it what you will. I bet that, at the end of the day, they find a memo with her signature on it. Oh dear, the conspiracy theorists have been let loose on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 "Damian Green, the immigration minister, then told the UKBA to relax checks on people carrying British passports and those from other European countries. The order, endorsed by Mrs May,....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Tories allow foreign criminals and terrorists to enter UK. Only another 347,281 to go before they catch up with the number Tony B-Liar let in then.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Only another 347,281 to go before they catch up with the number Tony B-Liar let in then.... ;-) See, it's a standard Tory policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 See, it's a standard Tory policy I think we should all be rejoicing that the nasty Tories are turning all cuddly and liberal.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 7 November, 2011 Author Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Only another 347,281 to go before they catch up with the number Tony B-Liar let in then.... ;-) So that makes it OK ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Reading between the lines, I am guessing this is what happened:- i) cuts / lack of investment leads to four hour waiting times at Heathrow ii) police etc have to spend time sorting out public order problems at Heathrow because of four hour waiting times iii) someone says "we need to cut these massive waiting times". Many solutions on the table, only one that doesn't involve spending more money. iv) Option cheap is chosen, and security checks are relaxed v) news story breaks vi) Government claims to be fuming over the breach Now, this is what will probably happen.... i) More and more evidence comes out that the decision came from on high ii) Teresa May ends up resigning iii) New minister arrives, faces four hour waiting times at Heathrow.... Welcome to the merry-go-around of British politics.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 The last labout government let alsorts of undesirables into the country. so dont just blame the coalition governent. But having said that if the liberals were in power , we would have a border or immigration service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 The last labout government let alsorts of undesirables into the country. so dont just blame the coalition governent. But having said that if the liberals were in power , we would have a border or immigration service. Well, it's not really a party issue, VW. All governments will let loads of undesirables into the country. That's just a consequence of immigration. Even if someone has a clean criminal record, how do you know that said person is not an evil genius who simply hasn't got caught? That said, this latest breach has taken place under the Coalition's watch, so you can't really blame anyone else for this particular incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 7 November, 2011 Author Share Posted 7 November, 2011 As usual, pap, I think you have summed this up well. When ever anything slightly political is posted on here the usual gang show up and start name calling and mud slinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 So that makes it OK ? Only if you read between the lines incorrectly and/or jump to conclusions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 As usual, pap, I think you have summed this up well. When ever anything slightly political is posted on here the usual gang show up and start name calling and mud slinging. Good job we don't have people posting provocative thread titles to rattle the cages of these naughty name callers and mud slingers then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Good job we don't have people posting provocative thread titles to rattle the cages of these naughty name callers and mud slingers then.... There are some people on here I'd love to have a good genuine debate with but I just know that the threads will go off on a tangent quicker than you can say 'Loony Leftie'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 As usual, pap, I think you have summed this up well. When ever anything slightly political is posted on here the usual gang show up and start name calling and mud slinging. Which is a bloody shame in my view. If there is one thing that I've learned in my 36 years of existence, it's that no political party is worth my allegiance or unswerving support. I find it amazing that so many people see either Labour or Conservative as the sole prism for addressing their concerns. For hopefully the last time, no political party cares about us. They just care about how they look to us. Not remotely the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 In this day and age I don't see a problem with letting criminals and terrorists enter the UK. We really don't want to impinge upon thier human rights now, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Teresa May is a bloody disaster anyways. And how she ever became equalities minister with her voting record is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Teresa May is a bloody disaster Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Source? This cock-up. The cat-lie cock-up. Her handling of protest cock-up. Her views on homosexuality cock-up. Just her, I'll be glad when Theresa May is gone. She is utterly unlikeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 This cock-up. The cat-lie cock-up. Her handling of protest cock-up. Her views on homosexuality cock-up. Just her, I'll be glad when Theresa May is gone. She is utterly unlikeable. Ok. Fair opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 7 November, 2011 Author Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Not very convincing performance in parliament today by Teresa May but Cameron made a point of staying by her side so I guess she is safe for now. Whistle blower interviewed on BBC news claims staff shortages are the main problem, although government departments are cutting back this seems to me to be a false economy when set against the security of this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 Not very convincing performance in parliament today by Teresa May but Cameron made a point of staying by her side so I guess she is safe for now. Whistle blower interviewed on BBC news claims staff shortages are the main problem, although government departments are cutting back this seems to me to be a false economy when set against the security of this country. He'll be there for now. I have a feeling that the Mail and Express will run with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 7 November, 2011 Share Posted 7 November, 2011 I've no love for the Tories. But Labour started this influx. To blame this balls-up on the Tories is perhaps correct in this case but the real culprits of the waves and waves of illegal and even 'legal' immigrants lies squarely at the door of New Labour and their open doors policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 8 November, 2011 Author Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I have a feeling that the Mail and Express will run with this. The Daily Mail not happy with the home secretary. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058634/Theresa-May-UK-Border-Agency-scandal-How-criminals-let-unknown.html Some talk of laying off 5,200 staff because of cut backs, lots buck passing about who is to blaim, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 This cock-up. The cat-lie cock-up. Her handling of protest cock-up. Her views on homosexuality cock-up. Just her, I'll be glad when Theresa May is gone. She is utterly unlikeable. Freudian slip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 This cock-up. The cat-lie cock-up. Her handling of protest cock-up. Her views on homosexuality cock-up. Just her, I'll be glad when Theresa May is gone. She is utterly unlikeable. Yeah, but she did a cracking double set with Vida Garman though. Think i've still got this in the loft somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 All gone quiet on the Dune front then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVER THE HILL Posted 8 November, 2011 Author Share Posted 8 November, 2011 All gone quiet on the Dune front then. Maybe he's out looking for a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I've no love for the Tories. But Labour started this influx. To blame this balls-up on the Tories is perhaps correct in this case but the real culprits of the waves and waves of illegal and even 'legal' immigrants lies squarely at the door of New Labour and their open doors policy. Fair point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 The Daily Mail not happy with the home secretary. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058634/Theresa-May-UK-Border-Agency-scandal-How-criminals-let-unknown.html Some talk of laying off 5,200 staff because of cut backs, lots buck passing about who is to blaim, etc. It all depends whether they decide to continue with running this story and how hard they go down on her. It's sad really, that so much of government policy is dictated by a moronic newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 I reckon this will run http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15648367jjj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfully Posted 8 November, 2011 Share Posted 8 November, 2011 She'll be gone by the end of next week - you don't fu ck with the civil service like that and survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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