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My uncle has been mates with Gordon Watson for years and consequently I've used his complimentary corporate seats a few times. Lovely stuff. Imagine being butthurt because someone like Franny might get a free ticket. You'd like to think someone like him of all people would deserve a ticket whenever he wants one frankly.

Think I've found a member.

I wonder if anyone on this thread is a member:

And all the saints fans furiously pumping their dicks when Ross Stewart scores a perfect hat trick before half time

Well done to the UK Eurovision audience for shoving it in the face of the angry commies and giving Israel maximum points. Heartening to know that despite the antisemitism we see on the news, plenty of people are firmly behind the Israeli people.

"de facto military of Gaza" fucking lol. Anything to legitimise terrorist scum. I didn't suggest anything-maybe you have a guilty conscience. You've got absolutely no idea that handing back the hostages and rounding up the ringleaders wouldn't have ended things by now. You're in no position whatsoever to call that opinion bollocks there's nothing naive about it. In my opinion, if this had been done months ago then external international pressure would have been such that things would have ended before now. These are opinions at the end of the day so we aren't dealing with certainties. You're just repeating what you've repeated a million times trying to get me to agree with you on something that I fundamentally disagree with you on. There isn't a moral equivalence between the two groups. There just isn't it doesn't matter how many times you say it. That doesn't mean you can't criticise the Israeli regime or suggest there's things they shouldn't have done but saying they're all as bad as each other is a distortion of the truth (and many on here don't share that opinion anyway they think Israel or "the Jews" are much worse.) Anyone guilty of provable war crimes should be tried and convicted for them just like they would be anywhere else. That doesn't mean that there won't unfortunately be many casualties of innocent people in a war - which is what this is in exactly the same way that innocent people were caught up in what occurred when we fought the nazis. You can bet anything you like that if the terrorists had access to better weapons that they would have already used them and they would destroy Israel given any opportunity. Israel has stated what it's aim is which is to break the back of the terrorists and prevent further attacks for a generation. Let's hope this is achieved as quickly as possible and then there can hopefully be sone semblance of a solution that means those who are innocent from Gaza are able to live a life free from war and free from terrorist scum putting their lives at further risk.

I assume when you refer to soldiers and the Gaza army you mean the terrorist criminals Hamas? Wouldn't want to falsely accuse of trying to downplay their crimes and provide them with an air of legitimacy that they don't merit. I don't expect them to rape and kill and then hide among the civilian population (a tactic they have explicitly said they will use and that civilians should be happy to die in service of their agenda). It's been mentioned before but ideally they wouldn't have committed any of these despicable acts in the first place but once they had, hiding amongst civilians and effectively encouraging civilian casualties should have been the last thing they would do if they gave even the smallest consideration to the people of Gaza.

Perfectly reasonable for terrorists to use the civilian population as human shields then. Nothing wrong with it in fact. No "soldiers" are going to invade somewhere and not take something for leverage. Perfectly fine to take hostages and not return them.

If Tel aviv were doing that I'd probably be having a go at the Hamas equivalents in your hypothetical scenario using the civilians as human shields and hiding amongst the population.

Sadly that's a hallmark of the modern world and the coseted life that so many young middle class people have experienced. Modern society encourages performative virtue signalling and feeling good over doing anything of any real consequence. You'll get people blocking London every weekend for months and when you see interviews of a load of them they don't even know what they are there for. There's clearly loads of great young people but I do wish the media would just ignore the completely cuntish ones so that they don't appear to be representative of their age group. As regards to some of the people o who are here, like I said the other day I just think some of them are wrong for having the opinions they do whilst they think I am evil for disagreeing with them which tells you all you need to know about them.

It's not the case for everyone by any means but there's a sizable group of people who subscribe to the power dynamics of oppressor and opressed and view the Israelis as powerful and therefore oppressors and evil regardless of any situation. I found the ideas espoused by David baddiel in Jews don't count interesting in that regard. It's a similar group who believe that black people can't be racist because they lack power. These same people would argue that Israelis can't really be victims of antisemitism because they have the power and the horrors of October are in some way lessened due to the disparity in the power dynamics.

Speaking of Eurovision. Ouch...

Lol. Hilarious that you think that's the same thing.

In fairness it's Eurovision so they're all tone deaf.

So the mentalist club.