Fabrice29

I was consistently told on here by you and others that our previous manager who got us out of this league did a terrible job and got incredibly lucky so my expectations are that team’s achievements will be surpassed. I did warn people that might not be so easy. On a less smug note, I think we’ll be in the hunt for promotion at the end of season and we should rightly be so. The season is long and a couple of good runs will get us right up there.

So the players are indicators and not the managers English football experience? Exactly what my ‘terrible’ point was.

We’re 6 league games in. Absolutely nothing is abundantly clear at this stage. There’s a club below us on zero points with two managers who have plenty of English Football experience. Stop talking like that’s an indicator of any kind of success. It’s not.

He’s made a mistake of telling everyone how important winning is to him because this is what ‘winning at all costs’ football looks like when you’re not winning. The sport is incredibly low scoring and scoring has many factors of randomness in it as well as coaching and talent so you can’t rely on just winning. You have to give fans/players/whoever else something for them to see when you’re not winning but by telling everyone even before he got the job that he’s not a philosophy manager and playing to the crowd initially with talk that resonated with them, he’s not got anything to fall back on now he’s not winning enough so shit hits the fan. We’ll be fine I think, wins will come, when he’s sorted out the defence by manning up and dropping a couple of players, but he’s made this road rocky for himself.

Wanting a fourth manager this year is insane.

This is exactly what people wanted though? Adaptability. No silly philosophy.

Maybe we were 3-0 down and not looking like scoring so he decided to change things? 🙄

Shocked changing the formation wasn’t the magic bullet some people thought it would be.

Your misogynistic and belittling views are all over the first page of the thread. I also called you a misogynist on this point because you suggested the womens team have to "earn" playing at a proper stadium as if being the clubs womens team isn't enough merit to play at the clubs home stadium. Other clubs decisions and reasoning isn't really relevant is it? Maybe it's right for them. Southampton have made a different decision and whilst there's a vaguely interesting conversation to be had on the decision and the reasoning behind it, and started to be had, it didn't really last long before you and others had to just make some misogynistic, and belittling digs did it? That's why people get called out for it.

Like I said, take the win. Well done.

Asking me a question about a point you never said I made isn’t challenging me. But well done anyway.

You said it 15 minutes ago. If you’re going to quote me, actually quote me. Anyway, as I said, I think if you’re a venue that is actively trying to add new things to it and around it then every opportunity to encourage people to come to that venue should be explored. Nowhere did I say it was a good business decision to lose money every time, as you asked. And I really can’t be arsed to explain in 3 bullet points why the concept of people coming to your venue might be a better idea than going elsewhere for your business. If you want to take that as a win, then good for you.

I didn’t say that. You did. Make it easier.

Are you suggesting I said it’s a good business decision to lose money every week? The concept that you build a venue and add stuff around that venue and hope that people might visit that venue when possible is not one I can be bothered to argue with you, sorry 😂 Chalk it up as a game set match if it makes you happy.

I know you’ve got a life so you won’t have time but all your words are there to read. Answer to what? Your question as to why losing money every time is a good business idea? It’s obviously not but the plan, I suspect, is not to lose money every time. It will be a long term idea that people continue to come whilst drumming up new custom. I didn’t think that needed explaining so blatantly as I’d already highlighted that once.

Can I suggest that when you speak to her you don’t condescend her and then she might not feel condescended. Don’t mention ‘novelty of the big stadium’, ‘sub standard football’ and ‘I don’t watch it and I don’t have a problem with wherever you play but..’

The first page of this thread has you posting more than once that anyone liking women’s football has been socially conditioned to do so and we’re 48 pages and a few years later and you’re arguing that women shouldn’t be allowed on a specific football pitch unless they make money. So yeah, I’m going to label you as playing a misogynist on here.

Your busy life really does get in the way of understanding a basic concept huh? How much are they losing each time then? Is it any different to a men’s team getting 3k a week attendance but still carrying on? Why does any club that’s losing money continue to do it each week? What level? They are in the 2nd division just like the men’s team are. The club have entered a team into the women’s league. That’s merit enough. I appreciate you need to be seen as a misogynist on here to keep up your character but this idea that St Mary’s is a proper stadium and women can only grace it when you say they’ve reached a certain level is off the scale

Yeah ask her if she feels more condescended by playing for Southampton at their home ground or a bloke called egg on an internet forum, who has said himself that he doesn’t watch the women’s game, telling her she hasn’t earned the right to play at the holy venue but can do so every once in a while on merit.

Do you really need someone to explain the business principles behind wanting people to visit the venue you own?

It wasn’t thought was it? I’d explain it again but you probably won’t have time to read it because of your life.

It’s not as ridiculous as a comment as women can enjoy St Mary’s as a ‘good day out’ once in a while or should earn it on ‘merit’. As if the team being set up by the club itself isn’t merit enough.

I explained earlier why potentially from a business point of view the club might prefer St Mary’s than ground sharing with someone and you didn’t respond. There was a fans forum for both the men and women’s team earlier this season that you could have posed these questions at if you really fancied figuring out the reasoning, did you not go?

The club being seen to ‘level up’ as you put it is perfectly reasonable isn’t it? That’s a perfectly normal take that doesn’t need to be caveated with a standard of football dig. Shall we do that for the mens matches too? Pick and choose when it might be a good day out.