Fabrice29

You lose a couple of games and everything you do is evidence you're a prick. Including telling a goalkeeper to fuck off, the same goalkeeper your fanbase spent 90 minutes telling to fuck off. That's the game.

Stay consistent but come up with a surprise or two.

The last time he played in Downes position, in that formation, not only was he subbed off at half time because he'd been so poor, but he was actively moved out of that position roughly 30 minutes in. But yeah, blindingly obvious.

This would be much more alarming if we, ourselves, were a premier league job.

Well it's just the ones that he bought up so that's why I mentioned them. Whoscored.com if you do want to check out his tackle numbers btw.

Well you've missed an assist and a shed load of chances being created so yeah, keep trusting your eyes.

Nobody who is defending him is saying he will be. I'm not even saying he's particularly great but the idea he's been shit just simply isn't true, he's a decent Championship left back, which is useful because that's the level we are at.

Well it's two assists which is the same as KWP and it's the most key passes in the squad per game except for JWP. But you keep not looking at the stats and stating things that aren't true.

We're 4th and lost 2 games in 25 or something. Okay.

I'd bet you he's above average in this league by any metric you named and justifying his place in an above average team in said league. Except for "impressing the odd bloke on Saintsweb".

He's not shit though. He won player of the season at a mid table team in this league and I think he'd get into a lot of teams at this level, including ours obviously. We're in the Championship remember, he's a decent player at this level and is delivering both performances and the stats of someone of that level. KWP on the other side is a luxury so maybe people are feeling entitled to see that level of performance. Even if he's our worst player (a cringeworthy phrase and discussion), he's still quite clearly capable at this level and the stick he's getting here is unwarranted when you add context to it.

Bale aside they all played for us in the PL. Comparing him to PL standard players feels a bit harsh, especially when we’ve yet to play him at that level. The idea that he should be compared to and judge to the standard of some of our best ever full backs and some world class ones at that is genuinely mad, no wonder the lad is criticised every week if that’s the level people want.

Or maybe he’s a decent Championship full back and the expectation on here is a little bit OTT but is standard for a message board that loves to find and hone in on its scapegoat.

Same amount of assists as KWP with considerably less minutes fwiw. 2 fewer goals. His defending isn't much different if you're wondering about those stats as well.

Alfie seems to have forgot his own massive "at the moment" caveat that he himself put out there originally. Tend to think Erwin is right in his post above. He's obviously been sounded out and it's down to whether United decide to make an official approach or not.

Really don’t think anyone should be taking quotes directed at a particular audience and translated through 3 different languages seriously

The guy with two assists?

Was excellent where I was tbf.

Not sure this is fair to be honest. Bayern having a good season points wise and Kane is scoring for fun, Leverkusen are just flying. Suspect they'll regress as well at some stage.

Man who manager doesn’t fully trust gets opportunity to go to huge club and takes it. Fair play and good luck to him.

Got a big name check today so confirmed he's still around.

Reliable stream available on Bet365 I believe btw.

Opinions like this make me laugh. Living in some weird reality that losing a specific game won't affect them but completely forgetting that if we lose this game today, that'll be 90 minutes of watching us lose. 90 minutes of watching us mis place passes, concede a goal or two or three, miss chances, bad tactics, bad substitutions, bad performances and all these things will contribute to a good vibe being lost. You won't be okay with it, you'll have issues with the quality of our squad, strikers, defence or whatever else contributes to the defeat. I'll happily eat my words if we lose today, keeper and defence makes mistakes playing out from the back, our strikers miss a hatful of chances and rotated midfield goes missing and you come on here and say it's all fine and there's no cause for concern.

Watched the Matt Gill press conference and he name checks a few of the coaching team but not Carl and then wondered if I had seen him recently and couldn’t recall.

Not sure if this is the thread really but is Carl Martin still on the coaching staff does anyone know?