Fabrice29

It's not a manager attribute is my argument.

Okay, but does "nice to have" really "improve your odds" and if so..how?

I've said before on here but Farke aside their isn't many recent managers who have won the Championship who had experience of it prior. There are also plenty of experienced managers who don't get promoted each year. It's not an indicator of future performance.

I’d probably have a quick edit of what you were saying Monday and Tuesday before you brag about being ITK if I were you.

Totally agree with this. I’ve no issues with Still and think he’s clearly done good work but a polished, rehearsed and lapped up presentation on MNF is easy work. Should be more of it from managers and then we’d be able to compare it to something but people are just impressed with it because it’s rare not necessarily quality detail. There is some people in France who think he’s a bit cringe, I’d be more intrigued to hear from them.

Wouldn't mind a bit more on this FF...

Nobody is denying those facts but if you’re going to go on a podcast and mock/call out specific managers and their ways of working you probably want to make sure you’ve got a better record than 3 played but 3 defeats against those managers tbh.

I don’t disagree with your sentiment necessarily but I’m intrigued to fast forward a year and see if you’re okay with a ‘stats guy’ leading a promotion charge but failing like you say you would be Cooper.

Or maybe not getting beat twice by a manager who refused to adapt.

It's not unreasonable to think that. It is unreasonable to state it as fact when you don't know though.

Okay so you cant name the figures. That's okay. No biggie, just a lesson learnt for next time. Focus on the nuances of the post rather than things you cant back up xxx

Name the figures.

Thank for the information dump. If you're going to ignore the post where I explained why the idea of Lampard leaving Coventry for us is not going to happen, then I'll just ask you to name the figures for this part...

Salary and resources maybe but the guy has only just taken the Coventry job, which he got through the help of family connections, the same family which isn’t popular here. Considering the position they were in when he took the job I doubt very much anyone thought ‘we either go up or I walk out’ so I suspect he’s had his eye on next season at least the whole time and even more so they’ve run really close this time around. Feel good factor, status and trust, plans already in place. Think they all trump an extra few quid especially as he’d presumably burn a lot of bridges and his reputation a bit if he walked out now. It’s not like he’s at Sheffield Wednesday where they’ve hit their ceiling either.

Before even getting into whether he’d be good, I’m amazed anyone thinks Lampard would walk out on Coventry for us at this point.

Except, it clearly does need explaining because the question was asked about 10 points and the example given was a club that didn't get 10 points and if they had done so they would have been relegated. That's even before the example given signed Chris Wood for less than we did for Onuachu and so the idea that more money = better players once again doesn't stand up without some fundamental recruitment standards that we could implement without costing us any points, let alone an imaginary made up 10 point figure that will likely be even more if we're found to be planning to break the rules 2 years in advance.

Do you want me to send you some pictures for your bedside cabinet hun?

He’s not going to fade away if you keep talking about him.

I think they are waiting for our season to end more than anything.

Well Forest didn’t get a 10 point deduction and if they had done so they would have been relegated and would have regretted it. Because, and I’m amazed that this needs to be explained to anyone, it isn’t a set 10 point punishment and then next stop is success. The punishment is judged according to the circumstances and to have success you’ll still need to recruit, coach and perform well. If teams continue to deliberately break the rules to get success then no doubt punishments will get bigger, as will barriers and rules to avoid it happening it again and to avoid little old Southampton over taking anyone of note. But hey, Forest will get a couple of obscure European trips to watch a depleted squad next season whilst struggling in the league again so maybe I’m wrong.

It’s also not as black and white as three managers will do exactly the same job. Here’s the crux of it: The overwhelming majority of mangers will either be sacked or poached. So with that in mind which one would you like our next manger to end up being…?

It is an utterly ridiculous idea and anyone suggesting otherwise or even contemplating it shouldn't be working in football. Next stupid question...

We've also had 6 managers in a row now that have not been poached by anyone and either currently work in a league or two leagues below our current position or remain out of work and quite unlikely to get work at a level higher than us. So..no...it doesn't put me off that we might appoint someone who might do a good job.

Do you realise how utterly daft you sound warning against appointing someone in case they are too good?

Yeah you’d take the point. But what if it doesn’t lead to a point. What if we lose. How many days are you taking it then? That’s my point. The novelty of getting a result yesterday was wonderful but the actual performance? Let’s not pretend people enjoyed that because I was sat around a lot of people who clearly weren’t enjoying it. I’m not even arguing that we shouldn’t be playing like that. I agree with Rusk that any other tactic would lead us to getting beat. But I’m also not going to pretend it was enjoyable, ‘our first proper performance of the season’ or that if we play like that next week and lose I’ll be satisfied