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Actual lol. Thumbs up. My missus won't stop going on about telling me it was the 1st and me ignoring her cos it's a Sunday....

Last I heard it was Milner and Downing out wide.

Thx trousers.

The photo please.

The model who accurately described the home kit having worn it for the photoshoot is pretty sure it's "white with details". We've already had this discussion, I'd just assumed we'd use the current yellow as a third where needed, but the club decided to reduce it by 50%. Also, the Premier League has rules preventing teams wearing kits for fewer than 6 matches (or is it 4, I'll have to remind myself) except with the approval of the League, so we'd have to have a pretty good excuse for only wearing it twice...

trousers ?

Tangible b0llocks. The rule has nothing to do with the FA, and FIFA who did enforce it have never given any single reason for doing it.

Premier League fans (who won't have a clue who he is) or Championship fans (who just aren't used to clubs spending that kind of money) ?

I think it's pretty nice, but it's not really a Saints kit. Not sure what respect is due for taking a photoshop from this thread and reposting it from twitter a week later though. The dual kit launch date says to me we've definitely got a red shirt and a white shirt, as they'll try and bury the lack of stripes by presenting the red and white shirts alternately to try and make it look like stripes overall. I'm still not convinced they won't switch the shirts to go with the white for the home kit - I can see it selling loads more than the red.

You've already missed it, a generic "we haven't signed anyone" pitched up in the middle of last week. Also, if he doesn't like that mock up, he's not going to like the actual kit, which looks about 75% like it. Add a slightly more straightforward collar, and some much thinner white stripes (in pairs), that's basically it.

It wouldn't be too tricky to provide examples then. I'm assuming you'd mean regular starting internationals, as you're using internationals as a quality criteria ? Man Utd don't even have an international keeper as their starter, De Gea isn't in the Spain squad. Back up Lindegaard is THIRD CHOICE Danish keeper (though Sorensen is injured). Chelsea have one international in Cech, their back up isn't in the Portugal squad, and the other keepers are a French U-21 (and out on loan all last season) and a bloke who is absolutely nowhere near the England squad. Man City have Joe Hart (international) and Pantilimon, who is at best second choice Romania keeper (and not currently on tour with them). Arsenal have Polish keeper Szczesny and the no longer in the Polish squad Fabianski, plus not in the Italy squad Vito Mannone. If you're talking about teams like Bolton (admittedly relegated), who have the Hungarian and Finnish first choices in their squad, well I'm afraid that isn't terribly impressive. I think you need a different criterion to being an "international goalkeeper" to suggest quality - it's not like Premier League benches are stuffed with the Argentinian, Italian and French first teamers, is it ? See also Paul Jones. I also completely fail to see the benefit of forking out mounds of cash to load up on a third choice keeper who never even makes the bench, when that's the one position teams can guarantee an emergency loan for.

Yeah, and the photo on twitter of a bloke looking exactly like that surrounded by photographers taken from out of a hotel window just before the official news was photoshopped as well...

So far, only as far as Bucharest (and Portugal to see Marians). Hopefully the next 10 years will see us take in Tokyo and/or Dubai for the World Club Championship...

Can we have a sticky of all the players The Sun links us with, just so we can produce an accurate percentage at the end of the transfer window ?

While we're at it, what at about the North and South Poles ? They're not even in Poland !

I'd be picking the phrase "desire to work hard". There's also an implication from our recruitment under Adkins so far that age could be a factor, although it's not explicitly stated it kind of goes along with the enthusiasm and hunger (there are exceptions) - I think Hooiveld (at 29) might be the oldest player he's signed on a permanent deal.

Ok, there are now some proper dates : http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2805126,00.html Home AND away kit reveal on June 30th Home kit on sale July 1st (shockingly in line with sources though strictly speaking the day Euro 2012 ends, not "after") Away kit on sale July 14th for the Liebherr Cup. Bonus point for Glasgow_Saint talking cobblers about the away kit there, and for Wade Garrett for, I THINK, the sarcasm about posting the Hearts kit/Patrick Rank Xerox kit thing which has already been referenced on this thread, immediately after my dig at people posting stuff from earlier on the thread.

If it was between Pardew leaving and Adkins arriving, of course we lost.

Why?

I'd be amazed if they put that much effort into doing something that would gain them no money whatsoever. Then again, they p155ed thousands up the wall last year by not selling a shirt off the back of our promotion and are doing the same again this time, so who knows what the logic is.

I had assumed that to be the case. I love it when people come wading into page 15 with new info from page 4! Anyway, as we've established since. The collar is wrong (it's plain red and probably the same as the Lille collar as that's the only plain v-neck unveiled so far - its like the 2011 Man City home collar too), the stripes are too wide, the actual kit has twin pinstripes not single ones, and the pinstripes are central to the shirt, ie there's no gap in the centre. Dan himself has done a more recent mock up on this thread. I also wonder if one of the pinstripe pair might be light grey or if that's just a bad quality picture.

I think having players who know how to react in situations where they find themselves overmatched is essential in the Prem. It's great having hungry and enthusiastic players who have a genuine freshness and enthusiasm, but sometimes you need players who have played enough matches of that type to be able to help the others make the right decisions on when to press or stand off, when to show inside, or how the flying fcvk you stop Aguero turning you inside out for the 20th time. It takes a very cool young head to deal with some of the most difficult situations faced against the top teams and not lose faith in your own ability. That being said, there's no benefit to signing has-beens who can't back it up either, not for the playing staff anyway.

I have no idea what the point of this is?

I just happen to know all this crap.

Technically speaking, as the bank became known as Barclays due to the involvement of a Barclay in ownership, it should, but only because the bank itself should have an apostrophe in their name. As this happened in the 1700s and the bank has never used the apostrophe in branding, I think we can give them a pass. It is the Premier League sponsored by Barclays not the Premier League owned by Barclay. If it was the latter there would be no grounds for doubt.