The9

Note the Prem and Championship number fonts (same on the shorts as the shirts) in this pic, and the horrible bright yellow/green numbers on Leeds' away kit.

Championship number style, for those who've forgotten.

Says here there are only 5 Prem number colours : http://www.wiggysports.co.uk/premier-league-letters-and-numbers-244 White Black Red Gold Navy The normal "blue" seems to have been removed in 2007 when they switched styles, and I'm not sure that they've taken the plunge with hideous fluorescent colours like the Championship have yet.

Yeah, but they're Football League numbers (and those were left over numbers from the yellow away kit of the previous season - we didn't have any black ones left because the following season's Anniversary kits both had red numbers on the back). The Prem numbers are different - they're also different from the last time we were in the Prem. You can see the differences in this incredibly dull website (wish I'd done it) : http://www.mmsports.com/group.php?id=547&start=&rows_per_page=

It's the same design, different colours. Prem Numbers come in black, white, red, yellow, blue and gold mainly, though I think they've started sneaking navy in to match Spurs' trim.

That's already happened too, some random Primera Liga side a few seasons ago.

I assume you're taking the p155 but as it's the standard Premier League font, apparently it's called Albertus - we won't need to change that unless we get to a Cup Final - the current Umbro font of choice then is basically a skinny version of Courier. Anyway, the good news is that you're not hostage to the Saints shop for shirt printing any more, as most places that sell football shirts also do Prem printing.

Thx trousers.

Seems unlikely as they're in the middle of a FILA deal... If we have black shorts the similarities to Cardiff's rebranding will make me LOL.

I am not able to confirm it won't look like that. Well, the collar doesn't, at least, and there are more pinstripes, and they go all the way to the top, and it still looks more like a Forest 1993 shirt, but apart from that... Can we have trousers with a Groundhog Day post please? Dan K has also made the point that the Sweden shirt has a plain back. Nice to know he does some research into these things cos I hadn't checked.

I've been doing a bit of digging and it turns out ours is on one of our friend's numbers. This would be fine, and we ARE able to renew (if we wish), but it's got his ST number and name next to our seats. So apparently (unconfirmed) if we don't change this, we won't be able to access our loyalty points etc. Not sure why it would link us all to one person's account anyway though, bit weird.

Yes. They did at least have an above-average grasp of geography for a cretin though.

I think he actually does track back and defend, and in fact in some matches he's been our hardest working player, but the critics choose not to notice that. You do have to wonder why that is.

I have to say if I was getting paid to play football and was completely bloody rubbish I'd happily pocket the cash for as long as someone was prepared to pay me. That's what contracts are about. I thought the Winston Bogarde reference was quite funny, though at least he was a good footballer once.

I'm deaf in one ear, and therefore request a 25% discount. Actually, I've got a bit of an astigmatism as well, is 26% off fair ? Oh, and I had knee surgery, and acupuncture for a frozen shoulder, plus I had trouble with my cartilage once... I reckon they'll owe me by the time I count them all up. Seriously though, I've never even considered how this should work and what's fair.

The team spirit thing is great, but how long's it going to last if we're not winning most of the time ? It's much easier to manage winning teams than it is continually re-motivate losing ones. I'm not suggesting we dump the basic ethos though, it seems to have done well for us to this point.

I'm not sure we'd want Lukaku and his superstar attitude disrupting stuff. Perfectly possible we could get De Bruyne, Chelsea loaned Fabio Borini to (Championship) Swansea which helped get them promoted, and he's made 25 appearances for Roma this season and is in the Italy squad for the Euros, so he's no mug and Chelsea weren't able to hold onto him. Though weirdly, he signed for Parma who also loaned him out.

I think the point being made there was how well he did for them this season in comparison. i.e. they got relegated, no doubt partly due to missing the loanee from the season before (though they lost Johan Elmander as well).

Just because you already know when all flights arrive everywhere...

Pah, it's no The9 HCDAJFU Scale.

But that was a disastrous season and we dismally failed to get promotion at the first attempt. We even began the season by losing to Luton, and struggled for much of the time. We lost 3-4 to Leeds after being 3-1 up. And some of our best players left. No blue shirts, especially of the insipid variety, will always be associated with failure, bad luck and Redknapp. In whichever order you like. Erm, just no. I will always associate the blue shirts with the glorious 3-1 victory at Middlesbrough, which is more than this season's bunch of losers managed. Also, we played in yellow at Luton. Besides, I own about 5 of those shirts...

Ah, that might be similar to where ours are hiding...

Won't matter to us unless we renew our expiring Umbro deal for after this forthcoming season. And actually, Umbro being sold to Nike a few years back didn't make any difference to their products at all.

Well that seems to be a fairly simple pounds = points equation. Wouldn't that mean people buying individual tickets all season will have a greater entitlement to go to away games than ST holders by the end of the season (assuming they've previously attended the same number of away games) ?