CB Fry

Are you 14 years old?

Yes. Reuben Selles beat Chelsea and everything.

Personally I truly believe that Tonda Eckert has the capabilities, belief and ability to take the job on full time and drive the super Saints to play off success and ultimately on to the Premier League. As a fan base we all need to get behind this guy 100%. All the fans have spoken to agree with me. Come on you Southampton #ad

Pretty sure Sweden are in the play offs anyway because of the Nations League. So he will manage them in those next Spring (and theoretically at the World Cup).

Pretty pointless smart arse answer. We could have appointed anyone the day after Still left and got results against QPR and Sheff Wednesday. Eckert is not the miracle man you're making him out to be. The point it is would have been sensible to appoint a new person with a 2 week lead in, rather then wait for Eckert to fail and appoint someone in the middle of a heavy Sat-Tues fixture run

Which was my exact issue with your post. To "contrary to popular opinion" claim that Nathan Jones had the appropriate experience to turn round Saints post-Ralph is misleading and precisely the cherry picking you're talking about. And it's not hindsight from a fans perspective because pretty much universally the fanbase agreed he didn't the day the news broke. There isn't any assessment that gives Tonda the experience, all he has from a small portion of the fanbase is a) the "no one can name anyone better than the incumbent" disease that is rife in our forum fanbase and the b) "he's going to prove everyone wrong because people said man couldnt land on the moon" traditional delusion. With the current mania to slag off and find fault with any other manager that isn't Tonda then I can believe that there are plenty in this forum who would right now reject the pre-Saints Koeman (he was terrible and sacked at Valencia, failure) and the pre-Saints Pochettinio (sacked at Espanyol, failure) versus Tonda who has never ever failed and never ever been sacked.

That floor will be a nightmare slip hazard once the Saturday night wanking off gets under way

You are stretching the truth a bit there. Nathan Jones did not have the experience to step into a decade-long established Premier League club. He had already shit the bed at Stoke City one league down. To "contrary to popular belief" him as being suitably experienced is fucking insane. Will Still had delivered one of the worst seasons in Lens recent history. He was borderline experienced but at 32 clearly a punt that he really was a boy wonder. "Contrary to popular belief" he was recruited for his potential not his wealth of experience. Martin and Juric yes fine appropriate for the division they were appointed to. The issue with inexperienced I think players is more about our Ralph Premier season. For last year's debacle we just bought not enough quality and this year Damion Downs is obviously the lightening rod, rightly. It's not experience per se, he's just terrible.

Honestly the argument for Tonda seems to be he's never failed or been sacked therefore he never will fail or be sacked.

Nice to see the GB News free-speech warriors crawling and fawning at the feet of the President.

I'm already shitting myself that he's going to get poached by Genoa

The narrative of a cohort of this forum defending the incumbent has existed with every manager we have had, i was expressing amazement that it is happening with a U21 coach who has been here 5 minutes. You're the one who decided that was aimed at you when it was a wider observation Stop getting in a tizz x

The idea that we are interviewing "any Tom Dick or Harry" is mental for a start, even for people with a low opinion of SR. So I don't agree with that. And "just keep going with Tonda until he starts failing" is not effective stewardship of this club or any club. It ignores the idea that we played terrible opposition and the team played thrn for a caretaker, they have never played for Tonda as "the man". So yeah, you're opinion but it feels insane to me.

There's absolutely no one around better than Tonda, who just so happens to be our manager right now. Got it x

You seem to be getting into quite a tizz about this.

If the cap fits. The idea that you don't want to appoint a "perennial failure" - ie a manager with experience speaks volumes. You are alive to the possibility that shiny untouched managers are just managers that haven't failed yet? The incumbency thing i have been fascinated by for a long time, I genuinely didn't think it would kick in for a interim U21 coach in the club for five months but here we are.

The important thing to remember about all these Tonda fan-boys that have sprung up deciding he is our best option would be saying exactly the same thing, exactly the same thing if > SR had given the interim role to Trollope > SR had given the interim role to Lallana > SR had given the interim role to Jack Stephens The appointed manager becomes untouchable. It's just incumbency. There is a cohort in the fanbase/on this forum who decide immediately that whoever the SFC manager is at any point in time - that person is the best available person on the planet and no one anywhere can possibly NAME SOMEONE BETTER. Every other option derided/dismissed/slated/belittled/written off/etc but if any of those candidates became our manager then they would get the same incumbency worship. It's just a weird myopia I cant entirely understand.

This is a thread about our managerial / first team head coach role so "job" pretty much obviously has a singular meaning. If you can name the EFL club Tonda was first team manager for, we're all fucking ears.

I'm not particularly clear on what he is buying time for, except that if he scrapes a couple of draws all of a sudden he's unbeaten in four and miraculously becomes the only candidate and Spors gets his way. For someone who on this thread said he doesn't particularly want him you are very much supporting the route that pretty much guarantees he will get the job permanently.

One major managerial decision and he didn't fuck it up.

But it's not that common for managers to be sacked and then step into another job within a couple of weeks. Far more common for them to take months / a year off. I'm not sure who you have your eye on who is going to get sacked and then immediately jump to the Championship. So sorry, this is bullshit. Bimbling about waiting without committing to anyone to revive our season (we can get in the play offs) is woeful stewardship of this club. Spors is just stubbornly hoping his pet project gets the job and trying to wear down the rest of the decision makers.

Give him the job permanently then, if he's a such a good option. Commit. Bimbling about giving a manager maybe-two-more-games-or-maybe-three-more-games-or-until-we-lose-and-then-panic is no way to run a promotion campaign for one of the richest clubs in the division. I was naive enough to think they would have someone in place in this week 1 of the break. I should have known better.

Zinedine Zidane is from Marseille which, if you look at a map properly, is comfortably inside the normal catchment area where Saints can attract supporters from.

If he genuinely wants to come to England he's the kind of name who might be in the frame for a vacant Newcastle/Everton/Spurs type job. Worst case Leeds or Brighton or something. He's not dropping down to the Championship.

I thought he was doing alright but I haven't looked since September TBH. Thoughts and prayers for Kamaldeen Sulemana at this time.