CB Fry

Fair enough, I had no idea. Interesting it has never been revived even once by the various kit brands in the intervening 50 years. Not even as a third kit. Hence my curiosity. I've lived through pure fashion biege/cream/pink kits, I have gone along with "Solent green" being a thing (loved it second time round too) there's been spitfire and other sea references. But never amber and black. Maybe we just don't want to look like Wolves or Hull. I think the fact that our greatest day (itself 50 years ago and before even I was born) was in yellow and blue means that will be our go-to scheme for the foreseeable.

When have we ever worn amber and black? I'm late 40s and to me this colour scheme means nothing in the context of SFC.

The football equivalent of throwing a kettle over a pub.

WHY HAVEN'T WE SHUT UP SHOP FFS

This is getting better and better and better

I've always loved the third place play off matches.

Fair enough. Doubt we would get big money for Downes, he is proven to be not good enough for the Prem. Jander could go as well if he pushes for it, but we are in a much stronger position than we are with Charles where it is very much cash-in time.

This is not your little computer game.

We will have factored in Ramsdale being sold or loaned again, 100% his departure does not magically remove the requirement to sell Charles. Damion Downs is not going to generate cash, we will likely loan or sell at a loss. Ditto Bazunu, we are flogging cheap or loaning to get him out. BBD ditto. Sugawara ditto. You're just listing players that aren't in our plans and we will move on. Selling Charles (or THB, or someone) for significant money is a different column all together. "Don't worry lads, we don't need to sell Charles because we've loaned out Damion Downs" is not what will be happening here.

Like who? The answer cannot be players that you think are rubbish.

A few people wore the top one to my Dad's funeral in 2000. True story.

yep yep yep yep

Nah, bollocks. We've had loads of decent blue away kits over the years.

I wish we were Bristol City

Venables won two entire games at Euro 96, one was against Scotland. And then did not make one single substitution in 120 minutes vs Germany and allowed a situation where Ince and others bottled penalty taking so Southgate was forced to. Plenty of game management issues there as well. Great summer but Terry fucked up too. I am gutted that the whole fucking point of Tuchel, the whole point was he had the nous to win tournaments. Absolutely pathetic from him today.

Gareth Southgate was an English manager. Basically Tuchel copied the Southgate playbook. Utterly baffling and disastrous. And all of us could see it.

I think there's a world of difference between the England of 1992 and 1994 that Jimmy Hill was talking about and the England of the last decade that have been in two finals and four semi finals. There has been significant improvement across the piece. If your assessment is "if we don’t win it, it's fuck all" then we might as well fuck off back to the Graham Taylor/Keegan/Hodgson/McClaren eras. If everything just reduced to failure we might as well go out in the Group stage and fuck off home or maybe not qualify at all. If people are going to treat going out in finals and semis like that then why bother.

What a pile of steaming shit

I think you might be mentally ill.

The England assistant manager is always good value for money. One question, one answer, wonderfully succinct analysis.

Argentina are the current World Cup holders so let's just give up now.

Argentina have reached the same level of averageness as we have. I think our advantage might be our manager who is pretty good at winning tournaments.

#moneyball

It's not the "worst thing ever" but it is bringing the game into disrepute etc. Elbowing someone on the pitch is not "the worst thing ever". Fielding an ineligible player is not "the worst thing ever". It doen't need to be for the FA to dish out a sanction. He is going to be punished by the FA as an individual, just depends on the level of time / fine etc. It is nothing to do with Steve Gibson or Middlesbrough now. Just need to accept we got caught doing something stupid.

I believe I am right in saying this is the first player we have had on our books that shares a name with a character from Rentaghost.