CB Fry

No it's not a choice of finish eighth or win cup or whatever you are saying. Would never start a thread that stupid. I'm not you. I am asking people to explain the magic of mid table finishes and how that is better than the magic of the cup. I think we probably won't win the cup. But going into March in the quarter finals of it makes for more exciting season than just the league program. But carry on completely mis interpreting my thread. You and Strawlock are quite a duo.

100% this. If not this season, when?!

This thread is aimed at people who say the magic has gone from the cup on the other thread. It's a companion to that thread asking: okay, where is the magic in finishing eighth? As far as I can see there has never been any magic in that, and I can't see any now either. Everyone else has understood that but I am not surprised you can't. And nothing here about full strength sides here either. Keep making stuff up Strawman, that's two posts in a row on the same thread. Poor misunderstanding chap.

What are you on about, Strawlock? What "choice" is being offered on this thread? Read my opening post again, slowly, and come back to me.

Adkins excelled in two jobs. Warnock has excelled in more than two. Mick McCarthy has excelled in more than two. Not trying to be aggressive but want to make the point that these "great white hope" managers that crop up each year are simply managers who haven't failed yet. Let's see in three years time whether Dyche has been appointed boss of Birmingham or Sunderland or Forest and might not be a roaring success. There's always a flavour of the month.

Because Sean Dyche is definitely not going to turn out like Adkins, McDermott, Warnock, Coyle and all the rest. Of course not. No, Sean Dyche is the real deal, honest.

We are in the Premier League. You not noticed?

I'd have said the world famous "race for eighth" is pretty blimmin' exciting in itself but if you want to ramp it up with added thrills fill your boots.

Including what Adam said to the ref.

People forget where we were three years ago or four or whatever. What year is it?

I can remember the radio, TV and papers going absolutely overboard on "The Race For Eighth" last season with all that hype around Swansea, West Brom and the other team.

This is just the flip side of the other thread. A bit of "I don't care about the cup" stuff on that thread, so thought it worth looking at it from the other side. Our last League game is Man U at home. Lets say if we win we go eighth, draw we stay ninth and lose we drop to tenth. That's our final day nail-biter. Can anyone explain how that is an attractive prospect? Does anyone really care? 9th or 8th? How exciting is that, really? How much coverage will it get us? What prospective players would care either way? And please no one even bother mentioning the x million difference between 8th and 10th prize money. Not a reason to care.

What is our other priority? We're not going down and we won't finish sixth, so I struggle to work out what else is so important.

You were having a pop at people for "giving up on the league" in January the other day. If you think us incapable of beating a "big club" in a one off game where on earth do you think we can finish in the league?

This. People deriding the FA Cup while at the same time wetting their pants over the hotly contested battle to finish eighth or ninth in the league. Wow. Riveting. Who needs Wembley.

Will there be a stream for the Burnley game, though? We get streams of league games because there are broadcasters round the world showing every PL game. Unlikely this will be the case for FA Cup third rounds, especially as ours is fairly dull tie. I doubt there will be a stream.

Bang on. The fact we are 9th despite having a dreadful run shows just how special our start was. We will have another run of good form in Feb/March/April and we will finish around about where we are now. Happy days. Cup run to cap it all off nicely. Treasure these days I say. It's Saints, it'll be fleeting.

Oh Dalek you are so funny. Can just imagine you are chuckling away at that pearler. Do your routine about a completely ridiculous points target we need to stay up. 46 is it now? Oh, how we laughed.

How come Liverpool seem to spend between 30 and 60 million on new players every single season then? When do they settle down and reduce their spending. Must be soon as they, like, didn't have a Championship squad to start with. I understand the net spend thing well enough to know it is pretty irrelevant to this discussion, as its only purpose is there for you to make out we can make top four on the cheap.

Buying those two have got us to solid mid table. If we want to get into top four we are going to significantly invest. Say spend 30 to 60 million a year like Liverpool have done despite having a better squad than we have had to start with. Or spend 100odd mil like Spurs have done this season despite having a better squad than we have had to start with. And yes, net spend is irrelevant here - as Liverpool's consistent spending show, regardless of who they may have sold. Happy to help.

So, to get into the Champions League we need to at least consistently match Liverpool's spending which is around 30-60m quid a year, yes? Not spend 15m a year like Strawlock is suggesting?

So are you saying Liverpool need to spend more than we do to get into the Champions League? Explain that, I must be one of your idiots because I would have said Liverpool's starting point would be ahead of us. What with them finishing miles ahead of us for the last five seasons and stuff.

Ninian Park sized mentality.

Nice to see Dalek trolling MLG into submission.

At the moment - mid table, possible cup run, influx of young players, a couple of expensive signings - we are basically as revolutionary as McClaren era Middlesbrough. We're doing great and as well can be expected but let's lay off the football revolution bit.