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We're agreeing. If we had three/four more players at Waya/Lovren class and very lucky with injuries then yeah. Top six, possibly. We haven't though. (which is fine, as six or seven massive signings in August would have been too risky) No hindsight from me either, I said 8th/9th/10th in the summer.

Where in that statement have they "clearly said MC was wrong"? Show me.

It does indeed show how close we are. Not in the slightest bit close. Top 6 was never realistic this season, certainly not for last year's team as you so memorably and dopily claimed. Every team in the league has got ten points worth of coulda shoulda woulda moments, so using that to justify top six being realistic is just ridiculous. We are where we are. And it's about right.

Dan Harding's father in law definitely knows someone that used to be a steward at the Dell. He was down there for years, he was.

This. No refs will "hold a grudge" and no refs will hold "tread lightly". Just stuff in people's heads on here. In the next game, what will be, will be and it will have jack to do with this ruling. Lallana might get some stick though. "Adam Lallana, he's crying again"

LOLorific. What "technicality" has "he got away with"? He's done nothing wrong here. Get over it.

Love the fact that me saying something totally innocuous and obvious like "the press have seen the letter" gets you two ranting at me to prove it but you believe some gimp on the internet without question. Maybe, just maybe you want to interrogate him a little more next time out. You pair of jumped up little *****. (this is a joke)

It's not in the letter, is it, Groundhog?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/referee-mark-clattenburg-cleared-over-2984483 "In a letter, seen by the Press Association" Cheers.

Except I am not dismissing it out of hand. I am saying if it is true, then that means other things are true. Discuss those with your open mind.

I haven't back tracked an inch. Have a look at the big picture rather than lame point scoring against me. Loving your line about the club not seeking trial by media. LOLtastic.

Correct. People like Egg picking over irrrelevencies with no grasp of the pretty clear big picture. If he said it and Saints had put that in the letter, MC would not be reffing on Saturday.

Fine. Believe it. Move the discussion on to why the club have left their team captain swinging in the wind, then. If there's a cover up, Saints have covered it up.

1. You're assuming they haven't, I'm assuming they have. Journos would have seen the whole thing and reported the most interesting bit. 2. LOL. Saints/Lallana don't have any insiders on their side. Okay then. 3. ...by stitching up their team captain. The weekend's biggest talking point would have been 'disgraced foul mouthed ref" if the club had come forward with that. Instead, Adam looks like a pr ick. Funny you don't seem to be interrogating the random poster putting up the "****" claim. Just assuming that's true then? Thought so.

An insider who ignored the four letter foul mouthed tirade? Okay. Clatternburg said it. Why has the club left AL out to dry for three days of media pi ss take then? The club could release the letter and MC would probably never ref in the PL again. You think the club are that gutless?

Because the press have seen the letter and if it had that phrase in it it would be on every back page in the country. And even for some strange reason the press decided not to go with the "Referee four letter tirade" mega-story then Saints, by now, would have leaked said outburst to the press themselves. If Saints really want Clatternburg gone then all they need to do is say he said that. They have't, he didn't.

Don't believe that for a second. If that happened why didn't Saints put that in their complaint letter that they wrote? Not difficult is it?

In fairness none of Man City, Man U, Chelsea or Liverpool are actually through yet. Still time for upsets. Come on Derby.

How the hell do you know what Paul Haywood knows? He's one of the most respected journos in football and probably has spoken to a couple of players from that match. He's may well have spoken to Clattenburg. "Have you ever met Lallana?" give me effing strength.

Lots of Dave Allen stuff on TV tonight. He had writers, you know. One of them was everyone's favourite activist Mark Thomas. Fancy that.

Then we can have a tedious week arguing about which of the two games is more important. Fantastic. Just so everyone knows, the correct answer is the cup game is more important.

Well done Saints. Strong team. If we go out now, well, sh it happens. I think we'll smash them four one personally.

Of course he doesn't. Just his hilarious comedy troll routine. Get him to tell you how many points we'll need. You'll die laughing.

We won't finish 14th this season. Now way. 11th at worst IMO. But even if we did, it isn't going to put players off. It didn't put Waya and Lovren off. Its a red herring to say potential signing are influenced by a 7th or 11th place finish.

Oh, and one more thing to shut Strawman and NickG up. I have said countless times on this forum that this season I think we can finish eighth and get to the cup final. Probably directly to the pair of you. Definitely to Lighthouse and OldNick and other nutcases. So why do i need to start a dopey "choice" thread. I don't. And I haven't. Read the opening post again. Cheers.