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Pretty easy to seperate the two things. Was in a london cab on friday telling the QPR cabbie how much I despise the man. You can do that and still accept he has a far superior record than Joe freaking Royle.

Steve McClaren's last job: assistant to H Redknapp.

Where is that supposed quote from me from? Do show. Joe Royle and McClaren don't have better records. Smith couldn't hack the Premier League. O'Neill is one. Not better, just about as good. Who are these other stellar managers?

Martn O'Neill definitely counts and is the only one I could name who has a comparable record to Redknapp. Excellent at Leicester and Villa and a decent Euro record with Celtic. He suffers from being, like old Saggy chops, someone the general dinlows on this forum have decided is terrible regardless of facts. Which is why Tamesaint is desperately quoting Joe Royle instead of more obvious names like O'Neill.

Joe Royle's astonishing achievement of finishing top six one whole time, his relegation of Man City and his abject failure to take Ipswich back up are the hallmarks of a truly "stellar" career in management. And the fact he couldn't get arrested after that (apart from going back to Oldham) only prove how truly, truly outstanding he was. Not one of those managers who are rubbish and keep getting jobs at top flight clubs. Not Stellar Joe Royle. Okay, that's one name. Joe Royle, unquestionably one of Britains finest ever managers. But you must have loads more, right? Must be tripping off the tongue.

Not really. Take it out then. Still an excellent record. Well, yes it is. Who are all these British managers with so much better records over the last thirty years? Certainly better than any other manager we have ever had.

No. I answered the question posed, and now I've answered yours.

FA Cup, top four with Spurs, top 6 consistently with Spurs, solid top half and Europe with Pompey and West Ham. Promotion from Championship with Pompey and almost certainly QPR. Bournemouth to unheard of heights ( until 30 years later). That's what he's won and achieved. Any further questions?

She comes from Switzerland, It's Pompey she can't stand.

This. Various other club boards had guffed up stadium expansion/relocation plans for nigh on thirty years before Lowe actually got the job done. All mouth, no ground up to then. My, I can remember one club chief exec sending out a CD rom of a sexy new expanded stadium that turned out to be no more than pie in the sky. At least Lowe out the bricks and mortar where his mouth was and got the sod built on his watch. Which eventually led to our highest league finish in the Prem era - unlikely to be beaten this season - and not funded by a dead billionaire to boot. Credit where due indeed.

Laughable stuff, especially from Oldnick who has spent many years grizzling about Pompey's perpetual survival through countless near-death experiences but remains convinced that St Marys would have been boarded up and the club shut down at the first sniff of insolvency. Gawd bless em.

I believe them and you. Just don't think for a nano second we were in any danger of going out of business. We were in admin for only a few weeks and were bought by a billionaire. We were one of the least basket case football administrations there has ever been.

If the council said they'd take the ground on, making up a signifucant part of the debt, then the "time" would be found to save the club. The conversation you heard has happened at clubs up and down the land. Over and over again. And they all plod on.

Strawlock playing another blinder, I see.

We wouldn't have been liquidated. The fact that Derry is saying the council would have bought SMS shows we would have never folded as a club. And the fact a billionaire snapped us up as "deal of the century" shows we were quite a catch. It's a lovely exciting little story, but there have been countless clubs whose "death deadline" has been extended and extended and extended and extended. Which would have obviously happened to us, especially with the infrastructure and potential we had sat there.

Highly unlikely.

With that, and fretting about that Swiss printing firm, you must find it really hard to focus on the action on the pitch.

Blantantly someone from here posted that.

Just astonishing.

Anyone know Alpine's thoughts on Gaston Ramires? Not sure he's mentioned it.

Cortese and Poch saying we were aiming to get in the Champions League is now a figment of my puny imagination? I'd post a link up but can't be bothered because we all know they said it. You've excelled yourself Strawlock. Just when someone couldn't be more wrong.

Maybe not. But there has been plenty of hysterical doom mongering on here, and also some ridiculous abuse of the person whose patronage made it all happen. Not you, but some. Prior to that a culture of arrogant entitlement was prevalent on the forum, with "Champions League or nothing" and a belief that we were destined for the top four. Not you but some. If we live on a planet where the chairman - the chairman! - of a provincial football club becomes a irepplaceable godhead, then I dispair of humanity. And what if we don't "keep it together"? What then? We finish, thirteenth? Sixteenth? Gosh. We go down to the Championship? What then? Tell you what I'd do. Support the club. Part of the brilliant joutney.Not pine after some rat faced pr i ck in a suit.

Amen. What's happening here is akin to a seven year old ninety minutes after a birthday party. The massive post sugar-rush comedown as these people try to adjust to a reality where they their club isn't actually on an unstoppable march to becoming a European megapower. The end result is the same: tantrums.

LOL. Captain "I'm not bothered" suddenly bothered about media coverage. You've changed, to quote Mark Clattenberg.

Except Wilde was an ownership change. This isn't. Nothing of any significance has actually changed.