SW11_Saint

Agreed. Have made no secret of my feelings on this abomination of a Saints kit, but calling fellow fans mongs for buying it on release day is out of order. Loads of kids will want it, regardless of what it looks like, and there will always be adult 'blind followers' who will buy a Saints shirt regardless (and of course the minority who do actually like it). Everyone has the right to their opinion, and their right to buy (or not), but let's keep insults to the shirt (or whoever you are bantering with on here!). I hate it, and won't buy it. Sash kit again for me this season.

Always kids and 'blind-followers' who will buy. True test is if it out-sells the sash kit.

Give me the Sheffield Weds one in R&W ANY day, over our scouse tribute kit...

Not on here - it would just be seen as 'different & exciting', or 'taking us to the next level' or similar such bow-locks...

In fact, since the pedants on here keep insisting that the home kit IS 'red & white stripes', by extension doesn't that mean our away kit is also 'red & white stripes' (or perhaps more accurately 'white & red stripes')? Are we allowed to have 'red & white stripes' for both home and away shirts? Perhaps we got special authorisation from the Premier League...?

Do Liverpool fans think they plyed in 'red & white stripes' in the 80's?

Odd that anyone saying they don't like the kit (the majority btw) are lampooned as manic depressives, or derided as not having things in perspective. The kit won't bring down Europe, it won't make me default on my mortgage, It probably won't even bother me that much once I have my initial reaction 'out of my system'. But as a Sints fan, looking forward to our first season back in the Premier League, it is disappointing, very disappointing, to go into it wearing what is effectively a Liverpool kit. Just a shame, and a missed opportunity to herald our return to the top flight in a positive 'Saints-like' way.

Yes, thank god a meteorite didn't strike earth and wipe out mankind last night too.

Cortese has taken a chance. When you take a chance there's always the possibility your decision will backfire. Only having 30% approval rating from a significant sample of your customer base isn't great, but Cortese will measure things by replica sales. I'd imagine there are enough kids / 'blind followers' to give him enough sales for him to deem it a 'success", though I it wouldn't surprise me to see sales way down on the last two kits, despite being in the highest league now. Have slept on it and for me it is still boring, bland and unimaginative - and lacks anything that says "Saints" to me. A shame, but we only have to put up with it for one year hopefully.

Another with no understanding of football culture. It won't ruin my life, but it is really really sh1t.

No, you're wrong. It also had white panels/stripes on the sides, so ESSENTIALLY was a striped shirt. An irregularly sized striped shirt, but a striped shirt nonetheless. I know this as I have just got my old kit from that era as my mum was clearing out her attic and found it up there. Picture from another poster...

Which one? For me it's down to design. Good design, we'll like it. Bad design (like this) we won't. Simple really.

Which only proves that you have no grasp of football culture.

Sorry, you've lost me. How is ditching red & white stripes and wearing red shorts "taking it to the next level"? Presumably you think Hugh Grant wearing a false moustache is 'method acting' too?

Thoughts from Saints and other fans. Mainly negative obviously. http://www.footballshirtculture.com/12/13-kits/southampton-2012-2013-umbro-home-a-away-football-shirts.html

Please explain, you've lost me.

Well said. Win, lose, draw. Going up, going down. In traditional kits. Always as Saints.

No, of course not...

Yeah, last season in red & white stripes was just f*ckin awful. As was 76. 79. 2003.

Odd that people think dislike of the kit is somehow linked to the team, our performance etc. Two totally different issues. I'll get excited when we sign players, will go nuts when we score/win, but I can guarantee you that at very single game at home I will think. "Christ that kit is ****".

Agreed. Boring, bland, un-memorable (except for us - for all the wrong reasons!). Especially disappointing given the last two Umbro kits which were great. Umbro and the club have really lost their way here.

Agreed. I rest my case.

No, I think I've seen enough to make my mind up - the pics dom't look that ambiguous to me. To be honest it's not that it's a horrific design - more it's blandness, and generic Sunday league look that offends me most, and I've never liked red shorts with red "striped" shirts - again, just looks very 'Sunday League'. Just doesn't say 'Saints' to me. And you are right, that was a classic kit - FOR Liverpool! I'd be more than happy with an attractive update of our RX kit or the 78/9 'candy stripes'. All for a bit of retro. Just hate bad design, and this is bad design IMHO. PS I think he away kit works fine, in fact I like it.

I'd imagine the demographic of this forum is representative of the Saints fan base - ie the bell-curve you would expect. The thoughts of those on here are shown in the poll at the top. Now go get your nan some Alpine, sorry, Alpen...

That you rate it "brilliant" tells us everything we need to know about you...