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Nobody with any respect for opinion is calling disputers of HICC retards, or flat earthers. Fact is, look back through this thread and you'll see it's quite the other way, although people are beginning to lose patience. There is plenty to debate, and that debate is about extent of human influence. Nobody is 100% sure, but if precautions are not taken, the Earth will not kindly wait while we catch up. However, if we are cautious, and scientists are wrong, then we can all breathe a sigh of relief. And loads of people can enjoy themselves by saying told you so.

Hmm, but it was French people that were also overlooked. Fact is, it's one law for the monarchy, another for the rich and bollix for the rest. Just remember never to buy L' Oreal products again. And when you hear them say, because you're worth it, you can shout back something back like, f*** off.

In a tunnel..??? I hear [bear with me on this] that the temperature in N.France is, including wind chill, -10°C. Now, because of the very mild autumn in France, parts of the Tunnel are still at 25°C. This has caused there to be gallons of condensation, which appears to have caused the power outages. Not a bad explanation given they must be running around trying to keep the forest fire down [sorry, bad analogy].

I see that Eurostar have closed down the service for the moment. They have run their own test-trains through the tunnel, but being unable to establish the true cause of the problems with the Eurotrain, despite having no problems themselves, they can't reopen the service. They are in a lose-lose situation, and all they can do is wait for the clamour to die down. Services fail occasionally. It's not a perfect world. In a sense, the more hi-tech and precise the technology, the less reserve it has when operating conditions shift. It's only to be expected once in a while. I think people have an over-expectation of technology.

Please, that's unworthy of you. Remember this is the lounge, not TMS. And TDD still hasn't answered the question. Was he there 40 years ago when there was more recorded ice at the same time of the year..?

I'm not disputing you've been there, TDD, as you well know I'm not. But you weren't there 40 years ago, when there was more recorded ice, at the same time of the year. If you don't believe the scientists, you only have to ask the locals. Nice pics, btw.

Were you there 40 years ago, and just a few years ago at the same time of the year, TDD..? Don't take us for plonkers, mate. I assume you're joking anyway.

Yeah, I'm as flummoxed as you on that decision. I would have thought they would have got someone like Guus Hiddink in there.

Guess what WG, it isn't true. There is considered to be an indirect effect. I remembered reading something about it earlier this year. This isn't the same one, but it discusses the same thing, albeit in less detail. Antarctic Ice Cover Increasing Before you shout, told you so, note what it says about the Arctic ice though. Of course, having more ice locked up in the Antarctic region affects the global climate.

My eldest brother tells a story of him and next eldest brother standing on the corner of Winchester Road and St Winifred's Road, watching truck after truck going down the road, after getting the go-ahead to move to the docks for D-Day. At a certain point in the column of trucks, the US troops see my two brothers and start to chuck gum, chocolate and money. Apparently, it all came cascading down until the trucks had finally passed by, and there was an absolute pile of the stuff. For a couple of kids in war-torn Southampton, it felt like Christmas had come. EDIT: I agree with everyone here. Those in the council that decide these things have consistently ballsed up over the years.

Just been speaking with a mate who lives in Chatham, Kent. Apparently, the snow outside his house is nearly a foot deep and doesn't look like it'll disappear. Good old Kent. It never fails anyone with a love of snow. Sod all in Southampton, of course.

Excellent manager. Have thought so for several years. He's always gone about his business with very little fuss and bother, but he, more often than not, gets results. The relegation with Blackburn Rovers, back in the 1990's, set him back but he has more than made up for that. A real gentleman too. Odd Trivia: Looked up his record [just to clarify my memory on B.Rovers], and found that he's been in football management since 1976..!

Dead ball shots are easier than open play shots, but Lambert's 35 yarder was just superb. Le Tiss like, and I can't praise it higher than that.

I do the same. I bet I can undercut you. I'm so cheap I end up paying the customer for the privilage of repairing their PC. Well it seems like that sometimes.

But a great deal less than there used to be, over an annual cycle.

The hysteria about the ozone layer hasn't died down, as such. It has just been replaced by the hysteria of human influenced climate change. There is still an enormous hole in the ozone layer centred over the Antarctic, and it is very thin in the Antipodes. The hysteria of HICC is slowly being replaced by the hysteria of resource depletion. No doubt, that will be replaced by the hysteria of over-population, once the media decide that telling people they can have an absolute limit of two kids isn't a taboo subject anymore. Can you imagine how those nice people at the Daily Mail/Daily Express are going to phrase that subject so as to get the maximum fright reaction out of the British public..? And even more excitingly, who are they going to blame..? Ooh, I can't wait for the bullsh!t headlines..!

Don't hate any teams, just don't consider them. If I'm pushed for an opinion, I'd like to see the glamour clubs all have an amazing drop in form, due to their finances going seriously skewed, and they have to sell their players, and get themselves relegated. That would be fun. Arsenal relegated for the first time in their history. ManU - what would the media do..? Liverpool - More crying and wailing for a once great club. I'd be OK with Chelsea just beating the drop [maybe the next season for them], because they've only been a glamour club for a few seasons, and I'm not sick to death with the media fawning over them just yet. Can you imagine how SKY would squirm at having to leave out Arsenal, Pool and Manure because they weren't in the Premiership..? Just imagine how competitive the Premiership would be too. It would possibly even be quite interesting again.

Bart has done very well, as I suspect we thought he might. And 3 penalty saves, in a shoot-out against Norwich, are worth a little bit of faith. I'm actually astonished to see KD back in contention so quickly. I thought his injury meant a mandatory 6-8 weeks off.

Channel flicking the other evening, and I saw some obscure game going on from Norway, or somewhere, I don't know. The peculiar thing was the ball, which had a garish red and blue, and slighty sparkly finish to it [i think]. It also looked twice the size of a normal fooball. Anyway, it looked really odd against the snow. No, it wasn't beach volleyball, or extreme football, but a regular game for some Euro competition, that I don't have the slightest interest in, between two sides that I have the same indifference to.

Of course, Vectis. Any Saints fan who doesn't know about Saints best ever keeper [officially voted for by TSW voters] must have stuck their fingers in their ears and gone la-la-la, every time his name was mentioned. Or they're about 10 years old, and haven't googled him yet. But why should we bother..? This is from our own archives: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/tag/shilton/ As to your other subject, that's happened to me too. It wasn't Micky Channon, this time, but the fact that a local youngish Saints fan didn't know Kevin Keegan played for Saints..! In fact, he only just recognised the name. I mean, wtf..? :smt103

It takes a lot for me not to like Christmas. But I always have one thought for those that can't afford it, or have nobody with which to enjoy it. It's a hanger-on from reading A Christmas Carol almost every year. A habit which my old dad started me on, as he read it every year before me.

Neither was I at Elland Road, but according to the radio, I would say a hat full of chances is over stating the mark. According to the BBC, who are as good as statistics as anybody else, the game went thus: Possession % Leeds 54 Saints 46 Attempts On Target Leeds 3 Saints 1 Attempts Off target Leeds 6 Saints 5 Corners Leeds 6 Saints 4 Fouls Leeds 7 Saints 10 Not as one-way traffic as one might have thought.

Yeah +2

Bit more like defiance, I would say.

Yep, f*****g well hate that too.