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You think?

Brilliant, I knew the village idiot would turn up. You fed up with being made to look silly on the Coronavirus thread with your junior-school level understanding of virology?

Keep pissing your pants over a bunch of lads trying to stop racism if you want, it's sad and funny in equal measure.

So you applauded a bunch of cunts booing our own players because they made an anti-racism gesture. Bravo, what a fucking hero you are.

Booing a bunch of lads trying to combat racism - big man.

True, but not in any way ironic.

The Poppy isn't a political symbol but it has links to the British army in the same way.

No one is outraged, just not pissing our pants over a bunch of footballers making an anti-racism gesture.

Just like getting down on one knee then.

And who definitely say nothing when the Poppy is involved. Funny that.

Loads of players have stopped doing it - guess what, no one cares.

No one is asking to take part in it you bell-end.

You seriously think that would work? Wow

My whole point was that variants are a legitimate concern and not some made up scare story, and you prove my point by posting a quote about how the government are investing in 50 million new vaccines to combat future variants. You really should stay away from anything science related, maybe stick to threads about floor sweeping.

That is just complete bollocks, there have been loads of variants but only a few have been labelled as of concern. According to Sky News: In lab tests, the South African variant (B.1.351) and Brazil variant (P.1) both have a key mutation, E484K, which can help the virus evade antibodies produced by vaccines or by having had COVID-19. It is also more transmissible. that is why certain mutations are of concern and why they are testing the Indian variant now. You clearly struggle with anything science related, labelling something as concern and doing tests is not crying wolf.

Where is the quote of them saying the vaccines don’t work?

Have SAGE ever said the vaccines will not work? From what I have read they are waiting for more information - that’s exactly what studies like this are for.

Great news, can’t see lockdown being extended if that’s the case.

I don't disagree. I guess at this moment in time, where most people are not fully vaccinated, the new variants might pose a risk of another wave. Right from the start it has always been a case of balancing the risk of the virus with the risk of the effects of lockdown. I'm not a Boris Johnson fan but even I can see that he wouldn't want to impose restrictions he didn't think were necessary. No one wants lockdowns, they don't benefit anyone except Netflix and Amazon. This article explains the situation quite well: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/previous-waves-have-relatively-small-modellers-worried-indian/ "So why worry about the speed the variant travels when an estimated 69 per cent of the population now have Covid antibodies, rising to over 90 per cent among the most vulnerable? What damage could it possibly do given those levels of population immunity? It is this question that vexes almost everyone but the answer comes down to simple, if counterintuitive, maths. Professor Adam Kucharski, one of the Sage modellers from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine, explains it like this: “The issue is that many people have a mental image that we’ve [already] had the biggest possible epidemic waves, whereas we’ve actually had ones that are relatively small compared to what could have happened without control measures in place. “Because of these controls, only a fraction of the people who could have got infected in the past year or so have been infected, so they’re still out there. “Of course, for many of these people vaccines have now decreased their risk substantially. But a very large number of infections that come with a very small individual level of risk can produce a similar outcome to a smaller epidemic that carries a larger individual level of risk”.

It's all about the numbers though isn't it. At the moment only 29% odd are fully vaccinated which means about 71% are either unvaccinated or partially vaccinated. So while much more people are protected, opening up to normal will massively increase the amount of person to person contact so the risk of spreading goes up a lot. If this variant is more transmissible it goes up even further, and if the vaccines are less effective against it then the number of vulnerable people potentially exposed also goes up. I expect the concern is because they are not sure of the last part, or it's just a ploy to scare more people into being vaccinated.

The UK scientists are world leaders in this field, I think most people would agree that if the experts in viruses have fears over a new variant the government should listen. What they should not do is listen to graduates from the university of life who have a 2.2 in floor sweeping.

The Bednarek sending off against Man U for me. When viewed from the angle behind the goal it was obviously not a foul let alone a sending off. When VAR called the ref over I assumed it would obviously be overturned, then amazingly the ref just stood there and stared for at a freeze frame from the wrong angle for a minute and gave the wrong decision.

SAGE of course.

Which they are fully aware of.

Or they are rightly being cautious because, unlike you, they understand the potential risks new variants pose.