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I saw at least two Robbie Keane handballs in the second half - that is all that needs to be said really.

Am I right in thinking this tart hasn't been elected by anyone?

This thread reminds me of an away trip to Everton years ago. We ended up in a home fans pub and we got chatting to these scousers and among them was this old codger who was probably about 80. Every game he would turn up a the boozer completely skint, and these guys would buy him a few beers and club together and get him a ticket for the game. He was probably loaded and on fiddle but fair play to the scousers who were not that well off but all chipped in for the old geezer.

Romance is part or the appeal that generates the money though. If a competition is perceived as sterile, dull, predictable and corrupt people will soon turn off their TV. I'm not against seeding but the group stages were already seeded, once you get to the play-off stage and team loses their right to be seeded because they have already been given an advantage and proved to be not good enough to go through automatically - they should be considered equal at that stage.

Complete nonsense, the FA Cup is way way more interesting because it's not seeded, that's the whole appeal of it, the romance of the cup (even though recently it's just ended up as Man U v Chelsea anyway). The World Cup is already too heavily seeded, unseeded teams in Europe often have a near impossible task of qualifying even if they are a better team than half the seeded ones.

You are talking complete rubbish, the group stages were already seeded so to do it again was simply unfair. Unseeded teams already have to play harder group matches to qualify, why should seeded teams have an easier group stage AND and easier play off game just in case they underperform. It's just another case of money corrupting and ruining football, you might as well just handpick the sides based on TV revenue and be done with it.

It is a disgrace that FIFA decided, out of the blue, to seed the playoffs. Ireland should be more annoyed with that than the hand ball.

There has been no recent increase in solar activity to account for the upward trend - if anything going by solar irradiance there would have been cooling over the last few decades, that's why the solar theory has been debunked. If you look at the graph of mean temperatures they follow a cycle in relation to ocean movement. Agree with you on the last bit, much will be learned after the next major El Nino

All the scientists agree that Solar activity, ocean currents and volcanoes etc influence the world's climate - they take all that information into account yet still conclude that there is an trend for warming caused by green house gases. It's not an either/or thing.

I bet they get more pussy tho.

The thing is the whole country is tribal, NATO has put one warlord in charge and there will be people who are never going to accept being ruled by him wether they are democratic or not. When we leave there's going to be tribal wars wether it's now or 10-20 years time.

Works in Rugby, Tennis and Cricket. It would be so so easy to introduce at top level football. In fact wasn't it even used in the last World Cup final with the Zidane headbutt, I remember hearing somewhere that the 4th official saw it on video replay and informed the ref. There was almost a bizarre situation where 80,000 people in the stadium saw it, half the people on the planet saw it on TV, but because one bloke in the middle of the pitch was looking the wrong way he almost got away with it.

All this stuff about terrorist training camps is just nonsense, the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi Arabia, used knives to hijack the planes (no training needed) and learned to fly in the US. If you want know how to blow up a tube train or bus you just need to look on line, you don't need to go to a training camp in some **** hole in the middle east.

Do you think we should be forced to replay the Southend game then because Trotman quite clearly booted the ball out of the keepers hands?

To be fair, Robbie Keane attempted at least two disgusting, cheating, hand-balls in the second half. You can't blame them for feeling hard done by because at least one official should have seen it but if Keane and Duff had taken either their two great chances they would have qualified. They are not at the World cup because they are not good enough - it's as simple as that.

Top man! The war was won by people like Old Codger.

Your theory is just complete nonsense, you are trying to say that all of the Worlds leading scientific bodies are being paid to make up lies about climate change to stop emerging economies like China and India?! Paid by who? And China and India obviously don't have scientists?!? The economic cost of combating climate change is going to have a much greater impact on the "west", why invent something that will make us much worse off - it doesn't make any sense at all. If it is all a product of the West's imagination then India and China will just keep on burning their fossil fuels and develop at an even greater rate while we wreck our economies trying to pay for expensive green technologies, which according to you are not needed.

Agree with his stance so feel sorry for him. But I suppose if you join up you should not be able to pick and choose and there has to be a deterrent. A few years in the clink is better than being blown up or being forced to kill people you don't want tho.

West Ham, Rod Wallace scored, think it might have been the day of the Hillsborough tragedy. Still think London away days are the best.

They are usually described as far right, my point is climate change has nothing to do with politics.

And don't forget those loonie lefties at the BNP... http://bnp.org.uk/policies/environment/

Wether you believe in made made climate change or not, making out it is something to do with socialism is just plain barking mad. Margaret Thatcher was one of the first to speak out about global warming in 1989, the fact that man is screwing up the environment is one of the few things all the main politcal parties agree with. The idea that it's just an excuse for new taxes is nuts as well, the measures the governments Worldwide are planning will cost billions, do they want to spend all that money for a laff?!?

The Heartland Institute - Free Market Solutions - are you being serious? Which scientific body of national or international standing agree with your theory?

Yeah like that looney leftie who was one of the first to speak out on climate change in 1989 - Margaret Thatcher (who just happens to have a chemistry degree).

You don't think that the World's scientific community would just maybe have taken natural variations into account?