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Crouch did a better job, for nothing.

Both IMO, you can't blame Burley for not planning long term if his brief was "here's 7mill, now get us promotion this season". If that was the plan though, you cannot say he was a success.

There's little point having one relatively decent season if it leaves the club with an unsustainable wage bill. The only way Wilde's 7mill gamble could be a success is if we got promoted, otherwise it would screw the club up - which it did.

No one on here is "in the know", there are a few people who get fed info from certain people but they don't KNOW anything, they are just relaying what they've been told which could just be bull****. We've seen it on here countless times, the same people were telling us Paul Allen is just rounding Calshot in his mega yacht a year or so ago. Don't believe a word they say.

Wilde gambled our club's future with his spending spree, Burley's objective was promotion - he failed. He sraped into the playoffs, but considering the cash he blew and the players he already had at his disposal like Gareth Bale, Kenwyne Jones, Chris Baird he should have at least challenged for automatic. Burley had one ok season but his mis management ****ed this club up, this is a bloke who let Oakley go for nothing and paid for Idiakez, let Higgingbotham go for nowt and paid £1mill for Pele. He left us with a bunch of useless high earners that has ended up putting the club in admin.

That's rubbish IMO, Football club chairmen up and down the country did into their own pockets to help out their clubs, many work for nothing, some put millions in. Lowe never missed an opportunity to line his pockets at the club's expense - we deserve better than that IMO.

That is obscene considering the position we were in, I expect his expenses make the MP's look like small change as well.

It's easy to understand why people are reluctant to cough up for a friendly like this, it all seems a bit odd being asked to put your £20 towards saving the club when the amounts of debt being talked about in the press run into the tens of millions and you have prospective buyers banging on about getting us in the Prem in 5 years. Me spending £20 on a ticket is just like having a lash in the Atlantic, what's the point, just sell the ****ing club FFS.

I don't want someone from Woolston buying us out.

I would be more worried about Ince being a rubbish manager, getting MK Dons out of League 2 was not that great an achievement considering the financial backing they have. What Tisdale has done at Exeter is much more of an achievement.

My mate from Bournemouth reckons most League 1 sides try to play decent footie.

I heard exactly the same from someone who works at the club. He was a complete time waster, a ****ing liability.

Well funny, would be funnier if it wasn't our administrator's time he was wasting.

That's the worst decision of the lot. Hiring a crap manager, buying **** players - excuses can be made for those, but stitching us up by a matter of days is an unforgivable "mistake" by Lowe.

That's got to be bull****.

To be fair, who gives a toss about the Derby directors.

A chairman can be fan-friendly without making decisions based on popularity with the fans. They just have to make their decision, give the fans an honest reason behind it and treat them with respect. Not alienate them, insult them and feed them a pack of lies.

Exactly how bad does it need to get for Saints before you change your mind about the SISU deal? We face possible extinction, at the moment the club is being sold to the highest bidder, wether that's a property developer who wants to build flats on SMS or a billionaire - the administrators wont care one bit as long as the banks get their money. I said at the time that turning SISU down was like a drowning man turning down a life boat because he didn't like the colour of the seats. We were not in Coventry's situation but we were so obviously just a year or so way from being there with the club losing 1000's a week and with shareholders not willing to invest a penny.

History has proved you wrong on that one, if the 3 main shareholders had taken that offer we wouldn't be facing possible extinction.

We've collapsed

I think that's complete ******, SISU were after the best deal possible, wether it's Saints or Coventry IMO. Unless they have some weird fetish for clubs with a Sky Blue kit there is no reason why Coventry is more attractive than Saints. Our main shareholders turned it down because their own selfish greedy reasons and SFC face possible extinction as a result. Whatever Ranson and co put into Coventry, their situation is a million times better than ours.

I think I've lost the ability to get my hopes up, I've been left neurologically stunted by the past 5 years of torture.

What are the chances of Saints not agreeing a CVA? If we don't then the most likely outcome is a -15 penalty on top of the -10. Starting on -25 would be a bit of a *****.

I agree the rules are a mess but Leeds didn't break any rules when they did what they did and Saints didn't when the holding company went into admin. Stockport's loophole is no different.

I think we all know that's rubbish, I expect leeds and Boston said the same thing. Hopefully Stockport don't get a CVA and start on -15, we will need all the help we can get to stay up next season. Stockport getting their deserved punishment could be of massive importance to us.