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Absolute horseshit! The youth mobility / working holiday visa is available for all 18-25 year olds in the UK to work in Europe for 1 to 2 years. Nothing stopping those young people from doing something different in the EU or further afield. This I agree with completely, however, it'll probably take a couple of years before anything is implemented and only when it's obvious the labour market is totally screewed!

Correct. The job you do needs to be on the 'wanted' list though so it's not available to just anyone.

Only for a few more days - after that you've missed the boat and won't be allowed to live in the EU... At that point you'll have made your bed, so will have to lie in it. You could try and change the situation instead of moaning though if it bothers you that much, set up a rejoin campaign...

And there we have it. Why did you mention that you would be alright because you have two passports if you have no intention of using your second one.

Lucky you have two passports then. Why not make use of your European one and stop fucking moaning about the UK?

Rainbows galore next year in Qatar then!

Odd that you would state the last 5 years haven't been wonderful - I thought you liked the EU?

But in Collins's black and white world, unless they work 100% effectively then they don't work at all - that's how this opposites thing works isn't it?

I'm sure Antrim will be delighted to celebrate Brexit vote day's fifth birthday.

Got me there

Fair enough. You wanted it from day 1, that was never going to happen. You carry on being angry for the next decade or so!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57546042 It's become very convenient how they can just keep slapping a 'test event' label onto sporting fixtures when the governing bodies are threatening to move them elsewhere / cancel them! A similar label has been put onto Wimbledon to allow 100% capacity for the finals! I'm sure next week we'll have an announcement that travelling fans will be fine to come from amber and red countries for the final at Wembley without having to quarantine as part of the 'test event' (let's face it, no 'home' countries will make the semis or finals so they've got to fill it with fans from elsewhere!). Just like the announcement we had last week that the 2,000 'officials' for the final won't have to quarantine, when UEFA threatened to move the final! I imagine that the previous 'test events' that have been run haven't provided very positive results, hence why we have to extend the lockdown measures! Still, I'm sure adding another couple in to the calendar will change all that and that they definitely aren't an indication that the Government will back down at the first sign of losing money!

"All your infantile questions are always answered. You choose not to listen due to your cognitive dissonance, having been so utterly brainwashed into believing everything on TV is true."

Why do I need to respond with all the Brexit benefits? I've picked you up on your dragging up of the steel argument (which we've had on this thread already and debunked). At no point have I given an opinion one way or the other regarding any other benefits. It has been made quite clear that any benefits will be gained over time and will take a number of years to come to fruition. I'm happy to see if that does / doesn't come true, unlike you who has clearly decided that because there are no tangible benefits in the last six months then there never will be! For what it's worth, I think we will see an enormous issue developing with the labour market in the next 6 to 12 months when it becomes clear that all the jobs that 'johnny foreigner' has been 'taking from us' aren't actually jobs that people want to do! It may even reach a point where the whole movement of labour is re-evaluated (which would be a good thing).

Do what exactly? I think, once more, you've grasped the wrong end of the stick. Antrim claimed that the Chinese have dumped 'cheaper, LOWER QUALITY' steel and that has put the UK at more RISK now that we have left the EU. That is complete and utter horseshit. At no point have I stated that the EU haven't imposed tarriffs on steel from China (like they also have with Turkey, US, Russia), quite the opposite, as I pointed out that the tarriffs were imposed whilst we were members of the EU (and that it did little to save the basket case that is our steel industry, despite the level playing field!). Antrim is right that the EU has anti dumping tarriffs to guard against cheaper steel imports, I've never claimed he isn't (that just seems to be something you've assumed) I have, however, pointed out that tarriffs are not 'state sponsorship' as he previously claimed. I have also argued against his claim that the steel from China is not only cheaper but is also of LOWER QUALITY which is putting the UK at risk. There is absolutely no evidence for this whatsoever! So, what exactly have I done to myself?

Ah, I see! So when you said we would be 'safe' you were referring to us being in a 'herd' and having safety in numbers rather than specifically stating that the Chinese make lower quality cheaper steel that we would automatically be burdened with and therefore live in a much more 'dangerous' country.

I've asked the same question twice now, but Collins has ignored it twice. Using my newly found language and meaning skills, there is only one conclusion that can be drawn; since he hasn't responded with which myths have been debunked, the logic states that he agrees that they have ALL been debunked. Since he therefore agrees that they have ALL been debunked he must also agree that the vaccine is wholesome and goodly. That's how this language and meaning thing works isn't it?

No-one is forcing 'cheaper lower quality Chinese imported steel' on anyone! Not sure how / why the UK isn't 'safe' because cheaper lower quality steel may or may not exist.

As I asked previously.... ???

European steel would have (still will be) safer within the protectionism of the EU. British Steel would have been left to rot in the same way as when we were part of the EU. Unless you think the EU tariffs were designed specifically to benefit British Steel?

What are you blithering on about? State aid - for propping up industries - is not permitted under EU rules. Since leaving the single market we are not bound by those rules, therefore it is possible for the UK to provide as much state aid to the steel industry as it wants without breaking the previous rules! The fact that the Government has chosen not to throw good money after bad to pursue this should tell you what you need to know about the state of the industry! I think you've managed to confuse yourself between EU anti dumping rules and state aid. Not a great look when you're trying to troll

"language and meaning" lessons seem popular this month.

This one???

Lol. The steel argument once again! See previous posts on the UK steel industry decimation which has never been an issue until Brexit! Nothing in there to stop the UK steel industry from being more competitive (apart from the fact that the whole industry is a basket case and will fail unless propped up by tax income!)

He didn't. He said the vaccine myths had been completely debunked. He didn't claim anything else, subliminally or otherwise. Do you agree that the vaccine myths have been debunked or are there any that currently ring true (and are therefore not myths)?