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Sorry @trousers. On your way out the club, send in Tonda, will you? 🙂

It's an appealing thought. 🙂

#Pastagate

The case against:- Didn't know what Tonda and the analytics team were up to. He reports in to Parsons, and has responsibility, as technical director for these events. He's as likely to bring in a Still as a Tonda. He did bring in the guy who's behind what we're going through. Having been so close to Tonda, his own relationships and his reactions to those that might now want Tonda out would be open to question. Staff and players may not want to work with him, as a result of who he's brought in. The "flop" and the "cheat" have significantly cost them.

The confidence that brought us Will Still. 🙂

Yes. And when we win, we can humbly award the victory to Hull, before folding up the club and reforming as the St Mary's Martyrs. 🙂

Wine

Yeah. When Parsons mentioned change, I don't think he was referring to a new slide on the new joiner presentation pack around scouting rules. The reaction, apparently, from players and staff did not indicate they were willing to rally behind him for next season. If we act quickly SR can get in their standard 3 managers in a season award. 🙂

I miss that jacket of mine. 🙂

I've seen 48 hours and Police Academy, if that helps. Actually, I might be Parsons successor, with that kind of knowledge. 🙂

Good to see you post again, Gio. All the on field cheating have rules in place around them already. So, don't apply here, as blatant as they can be. The panel are not being swayed by the reward at stake. They are seeing it as a straight rule breach. Since the punishment is open, they've removed us from it. Double standards and various forms of cheating/ gamesmanship are rife. The EFL could argue that this rule was helping to remove one aspect of it. Shame they didn't get round to setting out punishments at the time. This was a very rare occasion I decided to be optimistic. That's not happening again. Parsons change will be happing part of his statement, p,us the player reaction really means Tonda is gone. The potential wage increases, bonuses, sponsorship deals and career progression that's just come to a screeching halt, mean there's little chance of them supporting Tonda going forward. Parsons being the lightning rod for their frustrations, and his chat with Gibson should see him depart too. Spors, who brought Tonda in, will potentially be another one. Especially, if he knew. The £200 million is potential revenue. The panel deemed we were trying to unfairly influence and outcome against the rules. The other examples are whataboutery. Parsons is toast. Sorry, but I think Watford now have him. Proven promotion-getting manager with no cheating involved. By the time Parsons is through, we'll have fessed up to enough to ensure our relegation. Yup. Looks as though all sides were using whatever leverage they could get. Fingers crossed Boro have over extended themselves. But, I doubt it will help us. N Clinton Morrison can only do so much. 🙂

This post is just to show I caught up with the thread. Myself and Sherpa Watson will be making base camp here, ahead of stormy weather ahead.

Engineering hasn't changed in all that time. @Whitey Grandad read it in 1968. I read it in 2026, just after he typed "engineering." Just the same. 🙂 This post was brought to you by the Give @trousers more posts to catch up on foundation.

Is my final ticket valid for this event?

There! Some light at the end of it all. Support the Southampton Phoenixexes..um..Phoenicee... Southampton Big Birds (sponsored by @Lord Duckhunter I was going to type "Up The Southampton Big Birds!" but it sounded very wrong.

Just wait for the reaction when Hull play suprise guest stars, Bayer Leverkusen. 🙂

"And just listen to those Hull supporters. Easily out singing the 30 000 Southampton fans having to watch the Middlesbrough team."

Nope. All good. Just some technical issues. As the Official Site says, everything going ahead. See you Saturday! 🙂

The club have not done any risk assessment ahead of their prolonged activity. They've not considered the range of potential sanctions, thinking that at worst they would get a slapped wrist. Leeds' fine was so low, as there wasn't the 72 hours rule in place. Once it was in, and with any punishment on the table, we did it anyway.

A payment for "analytical work" to the whistleblower that he actually does report on, if for quite an expensive sum, would be more likely. After all, he did work for them.

After a summer of EFL panels, it will be an odd looking table, as everyone works their way back from a variety of minus points.

Thanks also to Pep leaving, Spurs being in difficulty and Sarah's parting comments.

He was more than happy to do what he thought lots of clubs do, to get an advantage. All the silly bits of subterfuge are just part of a game he certainly felt others do all the time. It's considered to be a bad look, and lots of clubs have secured premises or do the important work behind closed doors. The EFL are the ones with rules in place about it. The club's shock at the lack of clarity on sanctions beside the offence, tells us that they would have probably done it anyway.

"Club sources told The Athletic that they felt the hearing should have taken place after the final, rather than being expedited by the EFL. They thought there were too many rules that had no defined sanctions, which left too much open to interpretation, and if the rules had been clearer, the incident would have been resolved more speedily." Like a lot of us, they looked at the punishment as being Leeds based. Not that the panel could use any number of sanctions it had left open. Obviously, if Tonda is banned, he's toast. But things internally will come to a head before then.