Frank's cousin

LOL - a clasiic combinatiuon of what has already ben posted on here - I like the fact the agent has said its dead, not Bologna - we'll see what happens, great if we get him, if not great we have this sort of fee level being considered - of course now others know we can afford this, may put a few prices up....

Thats because its all speculation.... no one really knows teh ins and outs of the negotiations apart form those taking part - what is 'released' will half truths designed to play the other side....

Uhm... so 11 mil euros + 3 mil add ons = 14, we have offered 15 which means 12.25 net after agents fees etc... will inter offer 'bank guarrantees? I am just gklad it appears we have set of position and its up to Bologna take it or leave it. I knos a few think we should just go for it if we want him, but that why lies madness and the is teh Skate way to oblivion - we want him yes, but we have max value on him and wont go higher - the right way to do business IMHO. We dont get him, we look elsewhere - cheeky 5mil bid for Walcott anyone? Out of contract at end of season so get him cheaper NB. of course the Inter interest is a rumour possibly designed to make us nervous, who knows, cares any more? what wil happen will happen

... wonder if we might be interested in Walcott.... ducks.... out of ocntract at end of season and 4-5mil might clinich it? could be used wide or through teh middle and considered a striker or sorts? Too stupid to mention?

Was mentioned in one of the reports that the PP cash in the bank could actually be a nightmare for them as it could encourage any creditor to seek liquidatiuons NOW before this money was spent as 4mil divided up is a darn site more than the 500K chinney was offering - The end game is that Chinney one way or another want to amx out his claim - get as much back as he can - on liquidation he would get a couple of mil for Fratton and only a small proposrtion of the cash - originally hes hoping that once Birch had negotiated the compromises it would mean access to about 8mil in PPs - after all by that point teh CVA would have been paid up to 500K...so all his.... unfortunately for him the compromises agreed by Birch woithe the playesr swallow up nearly all the parachutes appaently so he pulled out of the deal.... last nights twist appear a new strategy - possibly as someone threatened to pull the plug now and divi up the cash - nothing to do with the 18k packing the park as delluded as the skates are - No is only back to protect his cahnce of getting as much cash back as possible - he knows to that he must be in cahrge of the purse strings and maybe sees a chnace to renegotiate teh compromise agreements with playesr after he is back in cahrge and as we have started the season, the the golden share in place (because the compromises were agreed) nowt to stop trying this now witha weak FL unlikely to kick them out..... Basically as things stand he gets about 2mil on liquidation, if his cunning plan comes off he could see as much as 5 mil in cash plus another 2-3 for Fratton and whatever anyone else is willing to pay him for a 'debt free' L2 club

wayhey... possibles though: 1. Chinney sees the PST approach of needing to rengotiate the player deferrals by 75% as a good idea and will try and do the same AFTER he has his mits back on the club.... afterall nothing is signed by hiim so he is free to try as teh PST were to renegotiate these compromise agreements 2. He has a new owner waiting in the wings - so need to get hold of it first to then sell on to another mug/arms dealer/child maimer/loan shark 3. simply had enough, wants his cash as much as possible and will just liquidate them AFTER all the creditots have agreed to his offer, and paid them so he keep the lions share of the proceeds]] - Is there anything to stop him spending his 500k to pay of teh CVAs and then liquidating keeping teh 3 mil + the proceeds from teh fratton park sale and walking away with 4-5 mil? 4. Realises that its pretty clear that Trev is going to keep them in admin for a lot longer whlst racking up his fees whichs means nothing left for His good self on liquidation 5. Going to pump in a shed load of cash and take them to the champions league with his own money (maybe too far fetched this one) 6. Going to pump in a shed load of cash as a guarranteed loan and in effect become the only creditor - or just spend spend spend other peoples money and not give a flying feck about another admin - as he has seen how easy it is to write off and how gullable and accepting of this scenario teh FL and their own fans are.

Kein Problem. Essen Sie Heute morgen Bratwurst zum Fruhstuck? Ist das Wetter gut? Gut genug um 'kinky tight Spandex cycling costumes' anzuziehen? Stereotypes: dont you just love em!

LOL. Depending on the physique this is not necessarily an bad thing Is teh sand wall thing any wose that Brits of a certain age and their palstic mini picket fences they place arouns their carvans in camp sites though?

That is actually quite disturbing given the size of the 'lady' involved - the next one should be handcuffs and the local hard cases turning up with baseball bats and bricks....

We must remember that there is a difference when we say it cant be explained by science - what we mean is that we cant YET explain it - the answer will be scientific eg the science of its exists, but we dont yet know it same as before 1953 we knew of DNA but not how it was able to pass on and copy genetic information - for that we needed the structure... and low an behold it worked as predicted . whats more genetics gave the method to darwins observational theories - tied in rather nicely. Yes there is a chnace there is a divine being - but the odds are the same as there being an Easter Bunny - we cant disprove because we would need to catch and kill the Easter bunny to demonstrate it existed - and my daughter would never forgive me if i did that Seriously, you are right there is a possibility, but there is more probabilty that aliens exist and keep order up there than a divine being - we need to be careful we dont confuse possible with probable - Its possible I could have a threesome with Claudia Schiffer and Elle Macpherson (I know showing my age), but its not probable... sadly

I like Bearsy cos he's plain fricken nuts... and well funny

Like this word... its time for bed and Mrs C is waiting ... if shes lucky I might get Embiggened

Corrected for you Hypo;)

Got me there mate - dont dabble in the dark arts of those types of physics... nasty nasty nasty You see you have presented the classic example - a curious mind can be fertile ground for the belief mongers - we want to know and as it cant as yet be accurately explained by science (lots of theories on the universe but not alot of evidence) its simplere to ''believe, there was some sort of divine'' plan.... dangerous you see our curious brains

its your magnetism Tis explained by science - my old man is the same -... I did suggest he try shoving it up his arse for 5 years once after an argument.

Being sceptica IS at the core of science though Sergei - its why theories ae not established until there is is a wealth of experimental, repeatable evidence avaialable and also why even though established theories are 99.9999999999999999% certain to be true, if new evidence suggests something else is at work it will be looked at... scepticism is healthy and drives science... its one of the reasons why its at such odds with religion which has if a follower demands no 'doubts Thomas'. I think on a personal or individual level there is no doubt that most the religious teachings ...in general are reasonable values that encourage a stable and civilised society - and even inspire individuals to carry out great tasks of kindness and selflessness.... but I owuld argue that these values existed BEFORE these faiths became established and so whilst they have become fundemental to many faiths, they were not invented by them - in effect you dont nee dthe religeous slant ... of course the institutional historical geopolitcal impact of religion and all its acommpaning 'helishness' fform crusades, genecide, war and a contributer to hunger and pooor helth through outlawing condoms ec can not be laid at teh door of those who have simply faith - but we should not forget that thes einstitution could not survive if individuals did not support them either thorugh their weekly donantions or by keeping it all going. OK the spiritualism bits were a bit more light hearted fun - but as serious point nonetheless.

Ok fair enough, but why is that whenever something that folk cant explain happens there is a leap towards a 'spitual' explanation? what do you believe is most probable? that there is a simple yet undiclosed scientific explanation, your mates were in on it or there really was some out of this world thing going on?

I will tell you a couple of true stories as I have consumed a half a bottle of Red and I am feeling all spiritual. Grandfathers Watch My Grandad fought in the war - for Germany - what with him being German and all, ordinary bloke corporal in the army, no Nazi, in fact in the 1944 whilst on the Western Front he and his mates had had enough - they decided to file off the swastika from their army belt buckles as they had heard the rumours of the camps and were not exactly proud of what tehir country was doing - only problem was it was reported during inspection and he and his 2 mates where shipped to Eastern Front. His two buddies were both killed within 4 hours and he was shot through the shoulder and captued by the Soviet forces. He was sent to a POW camp in Siberia - not a pleasent experience and he was always reluctant to talk about it. He wa snot released until mid 1946 and had to walk best part of 2000 miles back home - it took him nearly a year. He did mange to keep his wrist watch and no this aint Pul Fiction so he did not have to hide it up his arse - but he did leave it to me. I still have it and it sits in draw as the face is broken and it never works - even when you wind it up it never goes for more than 30 seconds - but its a keep sake, momento and means a lot to me. But here's the thing - whneever I go an look at it and pick it up, it starts up all by its self for about 30 seconds or so - its just the small knocks etc getting the thing going, dislodging the dirt etc..nothing strange. A few years back, I was off sick and watch the criminal excuse for day time TV and who was on but the chief feckwit Yuri Geller himself. He did is usual spoon bending and then for his final trick er sorry Psychokenesis experiment he asked the TV auidence if anyone had a an old watch that did not work, he would ake it start using the power of his mind, but we all had to stop what we were doing and focus on our watches - now I like a laugh so I did as I was told - and when we were then asked to go and fetch our watches ...Da Da it was working - for 30 seconds, just at it always did when I picked it up... now about 1 mil folk were probably watching that guff and my guess is about 50,000 may have had an old watch lying about and even if a quater of those started again thats 12,500 people all sudeely looking at Geller in a new light...WOW and sure enough 20-30 folk rang in saying how amazing it was - and the 'woo' legend grows..... The Fake Dead Relative Look at the back pages of magazines and newspapers and count the adverts for mediums and spiritualists - this is part of the problem, news papers dont want to print teh truth for fear pf loss of advertising revenue - happy to print 'woo' stories as it bolsters their chances of the advertisers coming back and the readers lap it up anyway so a double wammy... A friend of a friend of a friend is a freelance journalist who a few years back went to a great deal of trouble to try and expose ths racket for what it is. In effect she invented a whole backstory of a fake dead relative - work, old army collegues, school history etc. to the point where she publsihed an obituary in a local rag and briefed certain ex collegues of her deceased uncle who never existed who had appeared in the obit with stories of the war, works etc - just your typical human interest type piece. she then left it a few weeks before taking the plunge and picking a local medium at random form the ads - and calling up. she explained her background her job as a joutrnalist all tryue stuff and that something wa sstill troubling her about her uncle aho had passed away a few weeks back -.... a sitting was arranged. The medium was able to to get her in touch with her dead uncle - whose spirit was in the room - now he did not appear straight away, she had done her home work first and was able to amaze the journa with information 'she could not possibly know' - having spoken with the very people who were mentioned in the obit.... ...anyway she did not let on... she travelled 240 miles North to Halifax again a random choice, and looked through the local rag to pick a medium at random - and told teh same story - she did not mention she had already seen a medium down south in Kent... and surprise surprise she wa sable to get a sitting within 4 days - and was amazed at the what this medium could tell her both about herself and her dead uncle - he did not appear this time because by this stage she had whipped out her tape recorder and asked the medium how it was possible she was speaking to her dead uncle .... as he never existed....she was 'kindly' asked to leave The point though is that she could not find anyone to publish her story as none of the press wanted to upset a lucrative adversiing revenue stream - indeed would have looked a bit hypocritica since they also mostly had chargeable pshyic and horsocope lines.... ...always about the money

Scotty Bridgy - totally agree - to have to be force to starve yourself is dispicable - the law needs changing, and needs changing now

Golden post - sums up exactly how I feel to

He msut have been on a wind up with that Ouiigiuigi nonsense.... 'TREVSATW*T'' brillliant

In which case it would have said.... TREVSATW*TANDSOISBLETCH

Indeed there are plenty of examples where a 'free' sitting is done maybe even a few as the medium garners information, or where you may not pay for a sitting but are lets say encouraged to make a donation to the building a spiritulist church (which will never get built) search hard and there is always a money trail - and thos efolk you KNOW who do this will, never admit it to you - its like the masons - a network that share the 'book' eg information on regular sitters so as to amaze the gullable or worse the emotionally vunerable when they turn up at a new medium etc... but thats besides the point Yes, Sergei, people get 'spiritual satisfaction' from religion - but can you define what this is ?, think about it for a second - what do these people really get? A sense of calm? the ability to deal with complex emotional needs? what else? The thing is what religion does very well is no different from a decent psychiatrist or shrink - some respond simply to the community - oldies especially as sadly the church is often the only place many old folk actually get to interact with other people. Others in the soothing sermons that often deal with the very issues that we face day to day - love, loneliness, bereavement, etc... so quite naturally there is comfort in this and I am not going to dismiss the value of that - just you could do ALL this without adding a divine being into the mix - and rememeber 'Jesus loves you' is a very compelling idea if he is the only one who does.

Is it just me or is there something a a bit wrong with that statement:scared:

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