Farmer Saint

We should have had a penalty to go 3-1 up for sure, that's what I mean.

Absolutely, he made poor decisions after Suga went off injured, but I would say we wouldn't have lost that game even with his poor decisions if the ref didn't also shit the bed. In addition to that, being 2-0 up against Leicester - is that on the players or the Manager? You'd also have to say the players fucked up as well to lose from that position. Cooper is a poor Manager at PL level and is on his way out at Leicester by all accounts, so we should not have lost that match even with the poor decisions made by the manager.

They'd be idiots if they used their own money.

We do seem to be obsessed with him on here. Usually if a club was doing this badly the players would also be getting pelters, but there seems to be a reluctance there (even though our players are clearly not good enough as well as the Manager). Russell has clearly rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way.

Well, for one, he wouldn't allow the players to defend a corner the way we have against both Ipswich and Leicester.

No policies pay out for suicide.

We need a decent defensive coach - we thought he had brought one in with CC last year but don't think he's any good (as we've been just as bad as previously).

Agreed - if we're going to get rid we need to bring in someone with experience. Issue is those that are available aren't interested, so any good ideas, put them on a postcard and send to: King Rasmus Southampton FC St Mary's Stadium Britannia Road Southampton SO14 5FP

Doesn't mean it doesn't exist though, does it?

Not quite sure what you mean?

This fits in with what I was told (and relayed) last week, that we won't sack RM until we have someone in place to take over.

Personally I think Leeds had the best team - any squad with Gray, Gnonto, Rutter, Ampadu, Summerville is hard to beat.

It comes through TV rights, commercial revenue increases and position awards - what are you on about? Are you saying that you don't earn money for it? Have a read: https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/championship-play-off-final-how-much-premier-league-promotion-decider-worth/17nz5miq9ytix1wkm1w5q2kozd

And twice in the League. But yes, in the biggest earning game in World Football.

Yeah, agree with that - never said that wasn't on him. Individual mistakes - I'm not having that - there is enough sticks to beat him with without blaming the idiocy of some of our players on him.

No sneering here, calm yourself - you really do get over-excited.

Looks like Steve Cooper will be relieved of his job soon regardless of yesterday's win - I know he was very high on a lot of your lists before the season/at the end of last season - should we be looking at him when Martin gets sacked?

But beating the best squad when it mattered most.

Defensive mishaps in concentration isn't a Manager thing - Bednarek has been prone to that his whole career, hence why he's never really been a Premier League quality defender. Agree that if your defence isn't PL quality then playing the ball around between them isn't a great idea (and that is on the Manager).

Players like Downes are system players, and it tends to be the system that Martin plays. Honestly, I don't know where we go from here - we've bought into a philosophy with players that aren't good enough to carry it off in the Prem (which will also result in them being difficult to shift).

Wow, you've really taken offence to that haven't you? How about you do you, and I'll do me, and you wind your fucking neck in pal?

We had a distant 3rd best team, we just got done by the fact that Ipswich's Manager seems to be good (although they're looking pretty shit this season as well). Either way, we finished 4th and won the playoffs against the best team in the Championship player-wise.

As opposed to Hassenhuttl, Jones and Selles? Martin sorted it out and he's a shit manager by all accounts.

The more youngsters you buy, the more likely you are to find a Livramento or a Lavia.

We haven't been a team to be proud of for fucking years. My proudest recent moment was when we lost 9-0 twice under Hassenhuttl. What was yours?