Farmer Saint

Les looks like he's won a competition to play.

Cornet is so bad. Cancel his loan, he's on £65k PW.

Yeah, agreed. I think we should play a narrow 3 of BBD, Archer and AA, and then use the full backs as the width.

BBD scored those off the wing yeah...

It's why it works so well for Man City, and probably why it would work again next season in the Championship.

The Sky coverage is more boring than the football.

Not sure I agree with that.

The issue is we don't seem to get near the ball, and when we do it deflects oddly off our players - like they're not expecting to get it.

Makes sense with the players and Manager we have.

He's been shit since leaving Burnley TBF.

We've had years of shit defending, and the only time it has been anything but shit Bednarek has not been in the team. That is not a coincidence.

These are not children - they're supposed to be Premier League players. They should be able to defend a set piece without specific set piece training. It's pathetic.

Cornet has looked rubbish so far as a Saints player as well.

I'm sorry, you can train and train as much as you like, go through tactical briefings etc but our defenders are fucking jank and are not good enough.

The revisionist history this year is fucking startling isn't it?

+ HD - 412

I'm not sure if you read earlier - I did say the £100k pw was probably overstated - oh, you must have as you replied to it? I wish we were Brentford.

Not sure what makes you think I'm a Martin fan, I think he needs to go.

Che scored 16 in 40 last season. Last time Archer was in the Championship he scored 11 in 20, and last time BBD was he scored 14 in 43, coming off the left. I think Archer is probably better, so I'd call that 6 of one... Defensively we'll have Suga to replace KWP in theory. Tactically, maybe, but then better teams in a League rarely change the way they play to stop people counteracting it. People were doing it early on last season (Sunderland, Boro etc) and people on here were commenting that tactically we'd been found out, and then we went on a long unbeaten run, so not sure that holds up particularly well either. I think we're in roughly the same position.

So looking at who should be our rivals: Bournemouth - 11 players over £50k, average £63k, £36m per annum Brentford - 4 players, £56k, £12m Wolves - 7 players, £71k, £26m Ipswich - 1 player, £150k, £8m Leicester - 12 players, £76k, £47m Everton - 12 players, £81k, £50m Palace - 15 players, £68k, £53m Saints - 5 players, £77, £20m (including Bednarek, Aribo, Cornet and Armstrong - Ramsdale is on £120k) Nothing to discuss, just quite interesting to see what everyone is up against. Frank is quite clearly an outstanding Manager and they have done very well with an established core of players.

What you on about - Brentford are already full of established PL players - that's got nowt to do with PSR, just that they have bought extremely well and are very well managed? Criticise the fact that we need better players for sure, but that's not what PSR is about.

Not really helping Ipswich or Leicester though is it?

But why is it so different to last season? We have been down there once with Martin, and got promoted - why would we automatically think that wouldn't happen second time round? I'm certainly not saying it would be a guarantee, but we have a decent chance especially as we did it last time.

1. Apart from KWP, who will we lose that makes our team weaker than last season? 2. So the same as last time, by far the weakest of the 3 relegated. Whether Leeds are stronger now is very debatable. 3. But we got promoted with that last time. I really fail to see why we were in a much stronger position to get promoted last season than we would do next.

Just out of interest, why do you think we wouldn't come back up? We got promoted off the back of a new Manager playing a completely new style of football last season. Arguably we'd also have a better team as well as can't see many of our players moving on.