Farmer Saint

Agreed, it's not a safe way to do things - doesn't mean it's not being done though unfortunately.

Yeah, I said last season that they are looking to make us a yo-yo club as investments in the PL are too high - I was sneered at then. The plan (IMO) is to invest in low cost, young players to play in the Championship, get us promoted, then showcase them in the Prem to sell for good money. With PSR it's too expensive and difficult to stay up year after year if you don't want to invest in the ancillary hotels, marketing etc to allow for more spending.

He'll be going now, just not sure if it'll be before City unless we go against our initial plan that we need to have someone lined up.

Absolutely not, pretty gutted actually as I think Martin deserved time, but I probably feel better at the result than you do right now, so swings and roundabouts...

I only had 5's...

Not interested, neither is Potter or Corberan. We'll be looking elsewhere.

But isn't Taylor left footed? So he'll be on the wrong side. Unless you then put KWP at RB?

You clearly did pay "little attention" to the CoT, as we were nearly always correct this Summer...either way I think you're missing the light-hearted nature of the CoT - the only bullying that occurs is the horrendous name-calling, abuse and stalking directed upon the members of a group. Again, if you don't want to read it, don't go on there - you're not made to read it. Apart from that, there clearly is a lot of toxicity on this forum - this is due to the build up of cliques, fake personalities, fake wives and overall an attitude of distain towards other fans that are supposed to support the same club.

Reminds me of "Operation Get behind the Darkies".

I'm aware of that - not sure what that has to do with the quality of the team.

How is that helping to counteract attacking on the break?

And it's only now top of table Championship quality - we did well to get promoted last season.

Including a huge number of women and children. Saw a horrific video of a number of people burning to death in a "safe" encampment on the outskirts of Gaza. I suggest you all go and watch it - although I guess it will become wank bank material for some of you.

So what team selection should he use to demonstrate he has learnt?

GK is better, hasn't looked great though tbh - although sitting behind this defence I'm not surprised. Defence is far worse. Bednarek has never been a PL quality defender, nor has Stephens and we're also seeing why Kompany decided against signing Harwood-Bellis. Sugawara seems decent going forward, but suspect defensively. KWP has started awfully. I would much prefer a back 4 of 2022 KWP, Salisu, ABK and Perraud. Midfield yeah, 2022 shits on this midfield so let's ignore that. Striker - would prefer Che up top to Ross, although think Archer could come good. Let's call that one a draw.

I'm saying he should go as he's extremely divisive amongst the fan base and if we need anything to help galvanise us it's the fans. What I am also saying is not to expect anything particularly better - the Managers we are picking from are not good. There is no argument here - we're a very poor team in a strong league with a poor PL Manager. Not much to say here.

I don't think anyone is saying the Manager has nothing to do with this? What we're saying is that it's unlikely we'll be able to get a Manager in who's good enough to drastically improve our chances.

I guess we'll wait and see. All opinions after all.

TBF Jones had a better team than Martin, and I think as an actual side we've looked better under Martin than Jones - but that's irrelevant - different teams and different players. I think we have 0 chance of staying up anyway - I said that at the beginning of last season that any foray into the PL will lead to absolute relegation due to PSR and our inability to bring in PL quality players with the resulting transfer fee and ( more importantly) wage inhibitors. There may be someone who can keep us up, but if there is I very much doubt he'll be interested in coming to us. Even decent Championship Managers want nothing to do with us (Corberan for instance) as it is a bloody nightmare trying to compete in the Premier League with a Championship quality team and wage budget.

I'm not saying he doesn't have to go, but we're unlikely to get anyone in that's going to improve us much.

It's not good enough, but it's not an easy run of fixtures when the team is between Championship and PL quality. Ipswich only have 3 more points, and are very lucky to not be one point behind us, and they have a far superior Manager. The problem is the PL is fucking hard, and to stay up when coming up from the Championship you need an outstanding Manager (who we are unlikely to pick-up mid-season) or an outstanding team. We have neither.

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It was a joke mate, lighten-up.

He's old - he's into hoofing pigs bladders, laces imprinted on your forehead and severe brain injuries.

He needs to go due to the huge splits in the fan base - he's a bit like Brexit - but this is an excellent summary and something I have tried to articulate over the past year.