Ken Tone

I expect it will take about 48 more hours. (Cue nostalgia about saints' takeover Fridays on here)

Do we know that they are actually trying?

I notice that some of their players gave 2 weeks notice follwong breach of contract by the club in not paying their wages, and have now left as free agents. Maybe that's what Ward and Pearce are waiting for ...to get a bigger contract on a free than Ipswich would have given them on deadline day. Of course Portsmouth tried to force this on Ben Haim last year, but he hung on grimly and got paid in the end. No one else would pay him £40 k a week even on a free, so there's no way he'd give notice!

I see that Portsmouth is making a big fuss abou tbeing the birthplace of Charles Dickens, even though he had the good sense to move away almost immediately after he was born. So on this anniversary of his birth , may I be the first to remind them of the wise words of Mr Micawber? Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result Portsmouth in liquidation. (well 'misery' really but much the same thing for them)

Quite. Yet another thread taken over by Dune's politics. To return to the original topic -- What I just can't understand about India is that it has huge numbers of really wealthy people, and has a succesful and fast-growing economy -- above the UK in purchasing power, and not far below in GDP terms -- yet seems unwilling to look after its own poor. The sums don't add up. With a fair taxation system they ought to be able to provide enough for all their population without any foreign aid.

He also says he saw our fans throw stuff at Bristol City players during that game. 1) I was there and nothing was thrown that I saw 2) there has been no publicity about anything being thrown at that game ..no complaints from Bristol for example 3) how did he 'see' this? So frankly, anything he says has no credibility.

They are trading all the time. They are selling tickets, ordering food and programmes , etc. "Trading" doesn't mean selling players.

This link is to a firm advertising its services to businesses in trouble ,but it has a pretty clear guide to winding up, admin, validation orders, etc http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company-rescue/guides/what-is-a-winding-up-petition HMRC themselves have a pretty good guide too http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/factsheets/ef6.pdf ....and that makes it clear that if/when there is a WU order in place, all trading must cease, as in there and then.

It's Lampitt that really puzzles me. I thought he was brought in from the FA to provide some stabiity, and above all some probity and common sense. Instead of which, under his leadership as CEO, they have just returned to all their old ways ---- and just what the hell is he actually doing now?

Well look .. he made a packet there (it was said that he too got a percentage of transfer fees!!!) and has presumably no chance of being employed anywhere else, so obviously he's going to see if there's any more blood in the stone. Or maybe he just left a good biro in the office

Not sure this table wlil post in full ...forecast for St Andrews at hourly intervals from 4pm. So basically, 30% chance of it starting to snow during the game. Surely unlikely to be called off, especially since it is on Sky? Might be a bit hairy driving home I suppose, but I think it is fporecast to be less snowy as you come closer to home. [TABLE=class: full] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] 5:20 PM GMT on February 04, 2012 [TABLE=class: contentTable] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: vaM] [TD=class: taR b]Wind: [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 26 km/h SSE [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 26 km/h SSE [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 26 km/h South [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 25 km/h South [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 25 km/h South [/TD] [TD=class: taC] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: vaM] [TD=class: taR b]Conditions: [/TD] [TD=class: taC] Chance of Rain [/TD] [TD=class: taC] Chance of Rain [/TD] [TD=class: taC] Chance of Snow [/TD] [TD=class: taC] Chance of Snow [/TD] [TD=class: taC] Chance of Snow [/TD] [TD=class: taC] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: vaM] [TD=class: taR b]Temperature: [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 1 °C [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 1 °C [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 0 °C [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 0 °C [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 0 °C [/TD] [TD=class: taC] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: vaM] [TD=class: taR b]Humidity: [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 80 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 73 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 66 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 73 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 81 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: vaM] [TD=class: taR b]Chance of Rain: [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 20 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 20 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 30 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 30 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] 30 % [/TD] [TD=class: taC] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] 4pm 5pm 6pm 7pm 8pm

You must be looking at different forecasts to me. I'd heard west midlands -- snow in afternoon, turning to rain. Trouble is in recent years they've "cried wolf" over weather warnings ,so you never know how serious they are.

The big issue woth an AFC Portsmouth would be the stadium. Many of their fans who are considering this seem to be envisaging still playing at Fratton Park, with a relativelyt big fan base for non-league and therefore soon climbing their way back up into the league. If they were at FP it would still feel like portsmouth FC to them. If however, as seems more likely to me in spite of the convenant on it, FP gets sold as part of the liquidation, what will be the difference between AFC Portsmouth playing at Moneyfields or Havant's ground and ..err ..say Havant playing at Havant's ground? They'd be lucky to get crowds of more than about a thousand, especially after the first flush of enthusiam wore off. I can't see that leading to a rapid rise through the leagues, and the lack of a ground would stop them ever returning to "glory".

Could it simply be that they want 37 seats together as a group, and there aren't that many free in a block? Or maybe there's a policy designed to prevent large groups of away fans buying seats in the home areas? Since they are not on the database, how could the club know this was a genuine tourist group and not the famous Reading ultras?

lol indeed I expect we'll get used to it. But it really wasn't broke and did not need fixing. Sometimes it seems people just make work. Does the BBC not have better things to spend its time/money on? All the spoof web sites that are modelled on the BBC will have to redesign too now!

You see Steve, this is the sort of thing that loses you sympathy. Surely it was Mandaric and Redknapp that started this when they overspent and took you to the cup final? It was them that built up the debts that made Mandairc sell to anyone who'd give him the cash , regardless of where they came from or where their money came from.And let's fact it, Mandaric only bought you in the first place after the previous administration. 2 questions for you: 1. When do you think Portsmouth FC (under whatever offical name) was last actually living within its means? .. the 60's..the 70's maybe? 2. And can you explain to me why in God's name the club didn't sell any players before the deadline to generate cash to pay the outstanding bill? And don't give me that 'smallest squad in the league' drivel again. All you need do is promote a few of your youngsters to the senior squad, like we did when we were skint, and hey presto you'd have a bigger squad --what is more, maybe one you could afford.

LOL I thought this research finding was quite well known already actually (even without Trousers' proving the point!) Just look at the 'literature' of organisations such as the EDL, and it gives an idea of the IQ of most of the target readership.

This is way beyond my experience. (I've never gone bust, and always pay my taxes!) What is the status of a company if its shareholder/owner company ceases to exist?

Cameron knows lots of PFC fans?! Square that Dune! (Or maybe they are people who work on one of his estates, and he likes to take an interest in 'the help')

I damn well hope he is in trousers. The mental image associated with the alternative is not one I wish to retain.

That's all related to inheritance tax rather than income tax. It's a sliding scale over the 7 yerars, so if he'd died after say 6 years you'd have only paid a small amount of tax.

I think the gist of Mandaric's defence is....... This was not a payment or a gift as such. I was investing some money for my mate, as a loan, which I reminded him later he had to repay. (So the gift/income accruing tax would only be the profit on the investment, "which didn't do very well", ie it made no profit, so no tax due.) This defence is however contradicted by Redknapp's earlier statements to the police denying it was a loan. Meanwhile Redknapp's defence is basically ..." Eh ? What? I don't know nothing about no money. You having a laugh?"

No. I think they'll have to go into admin before the WU hearing, so before 20th Feb. Besides the points cut-off thing is to stop clubs gaining by waiting till they're definitely relegated regardless, before going into admin, and trying to lose 'pointless' points. So the FL can carry them over to next season instead if the deduction would have no real effect in the current season. There is no incentive for Portsmouth to try and wait longer than to the 19th Feb. The 2 big questions for me are: 1. Will the FL only deduct 10 points, or will they do to them what they did to Bournemouth, Luton etc ? --the difference being that the previous deduction was by the PL, not the FL. 2. Will they get a proper administrator this time? Because if so he may well try to release players on frees who might otherwise have been worth a fee, because he'll need to reduce the wage bill immediately to get expenditure down to income. Clubs might take players like Pearce and Ward on a free even if they can't play until next season, because their "wasted" wages for the rest of this season would be less than the transfer fee would have been. (That won't apply to Tel Ben Haim of course!)

Actually, weirdly I think one interpretation of recent evetns shows the club is not being run by AA. I know he seems to have a different view of what an adminitrator does to just about everybody else in the business world, but surely to God, he wanted sell Ward and Pearce? The club's directors are the ones who are putting their heads in a bucket of sand and shouting LA LA LA (not easy to do!) I can't see any other reason behind the club's behaviour other than that they've decided that nothing will give them enough money to pay off their debts and trade normally, so they are planning to go into adminstration again just before the WU hearing. They're betting on losing only 10 points, keeping most of their players for now and somehow struggling through to the end of the season without being relegated. More innocent people will lose money of course, but what do they care? Then over the close season they hope to find a new owner, attracted by a further reduction in their debt through admin, still a championship club, and with more overpaid players leaving as their contracts come to an end. It's an immoral and risky strategy, (especially if they get a proper administrator this time) but with liquidation the only alternative......

Jesus. Is that really true?