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Because the benefit is not simply their own. That is a corruption of competition.

No, there isn't, but the effect it would have, to maybe destabilise the opposition who know that another club is under duress or spurs their competitors on beyond their normal means at their detriment and for the gain of the third party..... It is against the philiosophy of two teams fighting for their own pride and achievement. It turns clubs and players into other team's b*tches.

No, because despite the prize he is operating purely for the best interest of his own team and self. There is no implication of detrimental effect for someone else outside of his own sides' destiny.

Hey, the theory allows the possibility.

Then their is no integrity left in professional sport. How would you feel if Portsmouth offered Saints players money to win a game?

So, Newcastle in the final game of the season offer a 70k prize to each Swansea player to beat Aston Villa and ensure they finish in 10th. This would ensure they finish 10th rather then 11th and give their club a greater amount of money then the payments they would give to the Swansea players. It is at best Vulgar. At worst could be used to influence a club at risk of relegation and oblivion. It is a further corruption of the game, of sport in general. People who should have no right to influencing sporting contests other then their own chirping in for selfish gains.

So, it's ok to put extra outside influence in the form of financial incentive onto it? A league is based on the idea that all games have a bearing at the end. All games have an equal impact. Mentally of course, based on the circumstances no, that will never be an even thing, relegation battles, chasing champions league spots will play a factor. But trying to influence it further outside of the pressure of circumstance is utterly wrong. It just serves to warp the sporting nature of the events. It is morally wrong.

In regards to my perception of sport as an ideal, its abhorrent. You are right, these thing need to be taken in context, I feel you went a little beyond the needs of this debate for your example though.

Completely dissagree. A win bonus is a set standard, a constant. For other teams to chip in in an attempt to sway results is wrong, utterly wrong. It is something that could be imposed or offered at any time and would effect the mentality of all players unfairly in the context of other games occuring. Why should a game at an end of a season (compared to say one in the middle) have any different bearing for the players based on the financial offering of a team with something to gain now the context is known? It's a complete insult to the integrity of the game.

Yeah, Innit.

At least it didn't put you into a ditch. :s Alternator failure struck me in an old diesel while running..... managed to drive it home thankfully. It was an old car without power steering and ABS though, could get away with it, if it was Petrol you would have been stranded there and then.

As implied above, the coaches will have had an entire week to evaluate them alongside each other. If the staff that have foreseen our two division rise feel he is ready in comparison to a man they have worked with for two years, he's ready.

Went to do my travelling expense form today. Opened up the work iPhone, typed in postcode one, went to postcode two..... Enter. The destinations which would have flawlessly worked on Google maps came through wrong, the distance was wrong. I could no longer trust my work phone. Turned to my personal S3, opened Google maps.... worked flawlessly. All hand recorded mileages and checked ones matched. How many other people will begin to doubt they can trust their previously flawless Apple devices, all because they became (more) arrogant?

It is an attempt to sway a game by a team not directly competing. It's abhorrent.

ABS and most types of power steering are based on Hydraulics. And yes, the lack of starting could indicate a lack of power going to the car's systems. Battery and Hydraulic pump systems need checking. Is it a Diesel or Petrol? Petrol vehicles are more electronically sensitive.

Just goes to show, the perception of English football outside of the Country. When I explained to a French lad who lodged at my place for a bit while he toured England that we have Four/Five pro and national leagues, he was aghast. Couldn't believe that even clubs in the fifth tier get crowds in the thousands. (and yes, when he saw the obreviation 'L Orient' in our third tier..... he freaked out! haha.)

That statement disgusted me. Financial incentives for sporting matters outside of your own employment? Despicable, disgusting and wrong on every level. Or, are we naive in this country? Is sport for sport's sake an archaic gesture?

Would be a stunning signing. But one that is seemingly purely based on the rumour we want a goalkeeper rather then any evidence.

Cheeky sod. I'm still looking by the way....

Oi! I was first.

The word 'Innit.' It's not a word. It is not right.

When Burley was appointed I was delighted. December 2005, Redknapp had just gone back to the Skates, we were hotly linked with Mark Wotte and another random dutchman (anyone remember?) as a management duo. Of Course, Rupert would get a chance to exercise his eccentricity 2 and a half years later. He had done well for Ipswich, done marvels at a broke Derby with a group of kids and had led Hearts to the top of the SPL. A proven record with youngsters and usurping the bigger guns? Bring him in! Survival was the goal in the first year... he achieved it. Ricardo Fuller driving us to some crucial results after he was loaned to Ipswich. Rasiak was signed, Bale made his debut, Pahars was moved on..... it was a clean slate. Second season, the open cheque book. The gamble failed, the cracks appeared. Dropping Rasiak, bringing in Idiakez. The stories of his drunken nights at the De Vere. Third season, the 4-0 away defeat at Sheffield Wednesday. Kelvin losing his rag. And we now couldn't afford to sack him. His time with us was a turning point in his career for the worse. At a time when we went into decline so did the manager, quite appropriate really.

Saw that happen at a Non-league game. Bunch of old men smoking away by the touch line only to have a little girl (5 or 6 years old) to run through the middle of them chasing a stray football.... Caught the little mite along the temple, naturally started screaming. The old men started having a go at the parent saying that the child should be under control. A fair point but totally ignoring the selfish and needless risk their act brought.

Then allow me. Apple iPhone 5 os6 Positives: - Build Quality - File Sharing Capability - Operating System Ease of Use Negatives: - Premium Pricing - Requires propriatory hardware - Operating system restricts customisation Android ICS Positives: - Customisation ability (Widgets, Ring Tones etc) - Available for far more friendly prices. - Offers everything most mobile phone users need/want. Negatives: - Not as immediately user friendly - Varying manufacturers can restrict device compatibility with apps - Some device manufacturers are better then others (Samsung and ZTE for example) All devices have their positives and negatives. Apple do excellent software and phones but they are not the be all and end all. Personally speaking though, I would never buy an Apple product after their stretegy of aggresive litigation against competitors over concepts and ideas which they themselves stole.

It was exactly the same when we were last in the Premier League. My season ticket at the time was 4 rows up directly behind the Chapel goal, for about half the games there were unsold seats directly in front of there.