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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=12YCBl0KgSo James Bond Quantum of Solace looks rather amazing!

Those are what I'm going for!

I much prefer me 13"er Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz 3GB RAM Finger print reader wireless N card Integrated 2.0MP Camera 250GB HDD WLED Screen 6 Cell battery Windows XP Pro.

I thought this was going to be a joke rap

Not if we want to keep the UK's reputation. People have kids like rats now days so something needs to be done. I think a licence is a bit extreme though.

We should execute the lot of 'em.

I'd have thought if your brain was effected by your illness it would be classed as a mental illness? For the record people with Down Syndrome and usually really nice, genuine people. It goes to show how far this thread has come from it's original purpose.

Well I think you'd be surprised just how many paedophiles there are out there. Perhaps not necessarily ones that abuse children, but look at it on the internet or what not. Lots of them are cured from counselling or psychotherapy. Plenty of them don't make it to the media. There are some who own up to it and seek counselling and mental support off their own accord. It's very easy to tar them all with the same brush, quite rightly so too. What they do is hideous and as morally wrong as possible. Still doesn't mean we can argue the point to have them all killed as they're terminally ill though. I'm dead against it - but I know some people feel when children are born and have mental issues they should be killed at birth. I know some families who have children who are wheelchair bound for all their lives. Some have such huge spazms that they break their legs and arms occasionally. Imagine the terrible pain and awful life they must lead. I'd certainly rather be dead. That's another mental issue. Perhaps while we're dealing with mentally ill people we should just kill them all. Just then where do you draw the line? Scudds would certainly be one of the first to go. It's a can of worms. I'm pretty happy with how the law deals with the few in this country though.

There's a large difference between being mentally ill and terminally ill though My basic argument is that, in some cases they can be cured. Or perhaps not cured but they're able to lead normal lives with other people.

You really don't have a clue what you're talking about. Plenty of paedophiles are treated and able to live a normal life without 'infecting' others. It is a mental illness, and could be just a phase in a persons life. Declaring them as terminally ill is just ridiculous. Someone dying of cancer is terminally ill. I totally agree that it is a hideous crime to commit and therefore totally support and agree with the law that is in place at the moment. Like in all crimes people occasionally get away with it, which shows our justice system in a very groggy light. I know a lot of people who have worked treating paedophiles, drug addicts, and various other criminals and if you label paedophiles as mentally ill, you might as well lock everyone up.

Totally 10000000000000000000000000% agree.

You haven't even taken into account that it may be other peoples feces in the toilet. What then?

Can of worms. I agree with that law. If they've been caught and punished before and done the same hideous act again, then the punishment and no doubt counselling & psychotherapy that they have received has made no difference. Many would argue that they should have been killed the first time, or at least never let out of prison (narrow minded IMO.) Also worth noting that you only put the punishment by death in bold. They could spend their life in prison instead. I imagine only the worst cases would be sentenced to death, however neither of us could really say without being involved in such a case. Lots of paedophiles go to prison and receive treatment and don't offend again, so if they are capable of living without abusing children then it shows the treatment has worked. what can we do with others that continue to abuse? Only other option would be to put them in asylums like there are for mentally disabled people. and yes, I appreciate paedophilia is a mental problem.

Unfortunately this is a never ending spiral. If someone is caught and shoved in say, Guantanamo Bay and later found to be a terrorist - great. They've potentially saved the lives of thousands of innocent people. If not - then it's terrible and they've devastated people's lives. Based on the old law I do believe people shouldn't get their human rights taken away from them without a fair trial. I think a great deal more monitoring should be done on people before they are put in prison 'just in case'. At the moment it is suspected terrorists mainly that are inprisoned, the worry is that soon it will be other crimes that are treated the same. Basically taking away human rights without a fair trial is as close to a dictatorship as possible.

Buy a Dell. They're dirt cheap at the moment & lovely systems. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3551

I think it's also fair to say that not all improvements have yet been made. With the way things were going before we had little choice to change things around - and those changes have fixed the problems. Unfortunately things are quieter now; although in most cases that is for the best. Leaving things as they were wasn't an option. We're certainly open to suggestions though.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/eComputers-LTD I buy lots from these guys. Choose a £360 laptop and email them asking for it for £300 and usually you'll get it. Don't get a celeron processor.

Hmmmmm. Very tempting. Still doesn't seem to have been quite as ground breaking as I expected.

Your farcry 2 screen shot certainly makes the game look very exciting.

Any more to report?

After playing the demo last night I cancelled the order. It's alright - but not enough improvements from last year for me. Fifa is better. Shame - I used to be similar to the9 and be only for PES.

Google desktop is full of errors - I use it too though. Uninstall and reinstall it. I've got this error from a few brand new dell systems.

Sounds like a corrupt google app to me. Do you have any google applications installed at all?

Totally agree. A films a film - I enjoy it because I know it's not real. I wouldn't contemplate watching something like that.

I wish I had £9.99 to spend