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Regardless of their finances, this is a big ask for what is just over 9 weeks. One false move with a tyre kicker could sink them forever. Once you start talking past minus 15, you have to consider another releagtion is likely. They have 9 weeks to find a buyer for something that is massively in debt and still burning money, fundementally broken in all aspects of the business, little or no infrastructue and dependant on a third party selling land (For the offices as a minimum) in order to trade. If I was aa i wouldn't be taking my time, I would be running around like a like arse fly. It makes you wonder as to whether Phils theory that some of the people involved are better off with club going bust, has more validity, than some of us originally thought

LOL...... DO you want a woggle, so you can fit in Stu

:D:D:D:D Super answer mikey - just not quite right

:cool:....Start with the title ....I'll help you out given your lack of Saints knowledge / understanding (based on the last thread you moved and then had to move back) Start with the word SAINTS in the title and then google why it might be relevant for Saints to be watching Wimbledon. Finger on the pulse as usual landrew .....LOL

Fair enough.... I think you got the idea of the post though

Or do clubs / fans not do that anymore

Corp corp corp .......Fail (must try much harder) http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2890963/Peter-Storrie-has-questions-to-answer-as-we-reveal-explosive-e-mail.html You have been spending money on players a long time since the money dried up. One of your lastest LOAN aquisitions cost you 170k in AGENTS FEES and over 500k to the club.....yet you didnt have a pot to **** in. (I know its the sun but shows the actual storrie teller email) How can you claim that is right?????????????????? And a huge lol if you think Barnard is on 15k a week

Have done this twice now Lungs......well not me as that would make me a techy geek ;).... But the bods at two companies ive worked for. The first time we did go straight to the carrier (This was about 9 years ago) and needed a physical phone plugged into the server (I kid you not) The second time we had to use an aggregator, but can't rememer the technical reason why......but there is one and the company we used was http://www.sms2u.co.uk/ . Not sure how comparable price wise they are to the rest of the market, but never any issues. Just read that back and not a lot of use to you at all.....with the exception (Just unknown) that there is genuine technical reasons why you dont go straight to the carrier........ either that or we were done by some salesman

I see our little skate friends are trying to club together and buy a flag..... PROPI Peoples Republic Of Portsea Island http://www.fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=250888 Personally PROPI should stand for; "Petpertual Renegers On Promising Incometax" But I'm sure there are better ones..........

Not sure whether it's relevant, but I cant see the words "Official" anywhere. I thought all Wembley merchandise was approved or official, could be wrong

Dont disagree with some of those comments Chin, but i do regarding Gaydamak. He is not irrelevant because he owns the land (THat is not what the debt is for) so he doesn't have to accept anything and can keep the land.......how much is it really worth to him? who knows New owners will need the land (Which include the offices) and he can price it at what he wants. The TV revenue as you say is where it gets interesting. The real killer would be if they (portsmouth & storrie) have ALREADY taken loans against that future revenue. Which if they have, would kill off most investors.

Im not sure Nick, it is in line with the new Sky contract which applies from next season (I think)

Chainrai is owed 12 million now – I’m guessing he would take 8 Gaydamak is owed 30 million - I’m guessing he would want nearly 10 or simply keep the land or some of it to remain in line with the other unsecured creditors HMRC is owed 18, they want 18, but won’t get it and will take the same % in the pound as the rest of the unsecured creditors Footballing debts remain at 10 Million including Sol and they will be paid in full Other unsecured debts 5 million Administration will cost 7 million including wages if a deal is struck within two months. Secured Creditors and Footballing debts = 18 million Unsecured is around 53… 20p in the pound pays 10.6 million (Assuming Sacha keeps some land and takes some cash) Admin 7 million Total just over 35 million, gets you ownership of a champisonship club, that is losing money and likely to have more points deducted, but that will have a minimum of 33 million in parachute payments (possibly up to 50 million if new plans are ratified) They will have the ability to sell players and could raise 10 to 15 million with players going out, plus any additional TV revenue etc. So a 35 million investment, could return up to 65 million in less than two years. The squad would be threadbare, the additional points / no CVA would mean another relegation , but trust funds etc, wouldn’t care one bit. Probably far too simple, but potentially a deal to be done

Nope is my understanding

It's that well rounded numer of 33 million over two years

******* idiot. I'm supposed to laugh at you posts Rallyboy....not sit here with a lump in my throat

LOL you have to pay 5k to speak with the adminstartor. You get your money back in six weeks. I do hope that wasn't something implemented after Joey Deacon and Rupert Duckhunter applied for more information I bet Mr M Jackson is a bit miffed

Indeed, but you have listed the answer yourself. Storrie will be on 12 months notice or 6 minimum, they don't have the cash to pay the higher earners out at the moment. The reality is that if they were serious, the loan players would have been sent back regardless of contracts. They would have been able to come to an agreement with the clubs..... and more to the point they wouldnt have taken on two new loans after the transfer window closed. This is little more than a exercise to try and show willing.

Anyone think there may be a connection; Fuglers get rid of Jacobs Pompey have now got rid of jacobs ....even though he was working for free Pompey message boards (And here of course) all suggesting a big story is going to break regarding money laundering

Not really an attendance statto or think it holds any real relevance, but outside of the Premier League, who else would sell 44,000 + tickets for a non main stream cup final? I am genuinely amazed that we have (There are loads of ticket threads on the main board, but this is more general) and it looks like we could sell more, if they give us any, but the only clubs I think could do it, are Leeds, Newcastle and possibly West Brom. "Sell" even - Any friendly mods around

Nope they are in court all day on the 15th. Documents to registered with the court by this Friday

Not strcitly true though is it Mr Andronikou; I 'm sure the loanee clubs would take their players back if you explained the situation to them.

Interestingly enough the minutes of fans meeting with the adminsitrators, didn't include a comment from the Administrator that it appeared " Alot of money was unaccounted for" http://www.fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=247600 Explanation from one of the sos guys..... The administrator made an off the cuff remark about alot of money being unaccounted for, but as yet they haven't actually gone through the books. "The administrator, while stating that this wasn't an off the record comment, has said that until the books are gone through completely it wouldn't be fair for him to leave that comment in" Administrators normally play things very close to their chests, seems a very strange comment to make, regardless of whether it is true and regardless of whether it was included in the minutes.

err no, it really really isn't

Nice work Sir.....congratulations