Saint_clark

Wasn't it part of Peps philosophy at Barca that they try to get a shot on target within 8 seconds of winning the ball back otherwise they recycle possession?

I wonder if we'll ever see all of our best attacking talent on the pitch at the same time.

It's been proven time and time again that you don't need to be a good player to be a good goalscorer at this level.

"I've got a fucking stat here that says we had the most successful dribbles in the first half...what the fuck are you useless twats doing running with the ball? Fucking pass it to Jan and Taylor so they can pass it between each other and get those possession stats up, just like we fucking talking about!! Useless cunts"

He's a conman.

I mean that makes it even more ridiculous. We're sacrificing attacking intent and defensive stability for a possession base philosophy and we aren't even having the majority of possession.

Players with pace, dribbling ability and good at playing direct getting their shots away early like Sully and Charly won't look good in Martins style of play. Wasted.

Yep they're all shit. Nevermind, i'm not putting my eyes and ears through that.

I was using that one but the sound was making my eardrums bleed. Trying a few others out now.

Fair enough. No point in watching then I guess.

Alright, so...I shouldn't be expecting a win? What's happening with Saints that we are just so happy to accept failure. Jesus Christ.

That team should win. Let's see if they play in a way that is conducive to winning.

He's been shown incredible support from fans at the games considering the level of his performances.

Not Alfie's fault, he's only quoting the con man.

I am aware yes, we were discussing Martin asking for patience while waiting for the goalscorer we signed to fire us to promotion, on top of asking for patience while waiting for results, on top of asking for patience while waiting for his style of play to stop causing us to concede goals. I bet the second half of the season we'll hear how Stewart can't start games because we need to be patient and allow him to catch up on learning the new style of play. Also Bazunu is shit.

Ok, so let's say we lose the players you list upon not going up. We lose from the squad; THB KWP Alcaraz Sulemana Downes Holgate Fraser S. Armstrong Che Adams McCarthy Lumley Bednarek I also believe we will lose; Edozie A. Armstrong And you think that won't constitute serious upheaval and effectively reset any progress made towards learning the style of play.

You're splitting hairs. When people talk about players wanting out when we don't get promoted we're clearly worried about losing our best players and being left with the shit ones that are happy with being in the championship. Nobody is saying James Bree, Will Smallbone and Sekou Mara will be demanding transfers to premier league clubs, what we're talking about is the scenario in which they become first choice players because the better ones have left.

Says it's a myth that we will lose our best players if we don't get promoted. Proceeds to list the players we would lose if we don't get promoted all of whom are our best players.

Really? Martin has come in to win games and get us promoted. So far he's working hard on getting us playing passing football out from the back and keeping the ball at all costs. But he hasn't made any actual progress towards the job he's hired to do. I think he's a chancer who will do the same at every club he's ever at, but will point at certain statistics as "proof" he's a good coach and always just need a little more time and patience to get it right.

You mean at the start of the season, when he started 2 out of 4 games and scored 3 goals?

Jesus Christ him parroting patience, he's like one of those soppy eco-friendly hippy old women constantly going on about mantras and breathing techniques and talking to everyone in a simpering calm voice that eventually you end up just telling to fuck off. Imagine you hired a brickie to build a wall and he kept digging the foundation and then filling it in over and over without even a sign of a brick. When you ask him how long it's going to take he says "it takes time, be patient, I haven't used this trowel in 9 months". Stop telling us to be patient and do the fucking job you were hired to do you time waster.

Burnley had also only lost one game after 12 and I'm pretty sure the amount their conceded was in the single figures, although for some reason I can't find the website that lets you look at tables after a certain amount of games anymore. They were laying a solid foundation for a title push, we're setting ourselves up for a season seesawing between just outside the playoffs and teetering into the bottom half. Did anyone ask the manager exactly how patient we have to be? When should we start seeing consistent results from this footballing master plan? We're wasting this season with one of the best squads in the league trying to adapt it to a new style of play. By the time they've got it, it's too late for promotion so we're looking at next season and most of the players will want out so we start all over again.

Great movement by Kane

Hope he doesn't spend his entire career at PSG to be honest. He'd be fantastic in the Prem.

In 2018 when we set up with Sterling, Rashford and Sancho running beyond him it made sense for him to drop deep and drag the defense out of shape. Now we need him to stay through the centre and be the focal point.