Johnny Bognor

Had all the Tories that voted 'for' actually abstained, there were more than enough Labour MP's to carry it through regardless. See my point above.

Here, I'll help: http://stopwar.org.uk/content/view/1743/268/ 80% of the population thought Blair had lied..........taken at the time of the Chilcot enquiry.....some time after the war. Anyone with a brain cell would realise this once no WMD were found, this was obviously the case. The revised info you were referring to is here: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/newsevents/ca/ca.aspx?oItemId=287 It does not say 67% were opposed to the war full stop, it is that 67% would be against the war if no proof or security council resolution was sought. For many, the sexed up dossier was proof and so without a poll taking this into account, your ascertations are meaningless. As it happens, 75% would have supported the war with 'proof' and/or a resolution and for many the sexed up dossier constitituted proof and so you could claim that only 25% were against. One thing I am sure we can agree on is that Labour are a bunch of ****ing liars, Fraudon signed the cheques and old Cleggy is going to get into bed with them. Bully for you, I say.

I must have missed the 48 million people marching on London. Therefore I think you are making that up. After 911 we were living in a world of fear and the reason why 80% (more likely) who were in favour, were so, because of the lies of the Labour government. Still if the Libs want to turn a blind eye, that's up to them.

So have Vesuvius and Mount Pele errupted yet, because until they do, he is not really right?

You seem to be forgetting that the Tories "who were up for it", weren't exactly in possession of the facts. They were lied to by a Bliar and Fraudon who wanted to prove their worth to the good old US of A. If you have to choose between siding up to a party that knowingly took us to war illegally or a party that voted for it because they were lied to, then it is an easy choice to make.

You must mean me comrade, as I managed to get Fuengirola Saint to agree with me.

Ah, but it's probably OK as Fraudon has learned his lesson. For Nebt Debt of £900,000,000,000 he has to be the most expensive pupil in the nation, but he's probably learned alot.

Poll of Polls yesterday.... Con = 39% Lab = 32% Lib = 20% Other = 9% Poll of Polls Today Con = 37% Lab = 31% Lib = 21% Other = 11% There is definately movement.

One thing no-one seems to have picked up on, so maybe it's just me, is that Clegg clearly and knowingly broke one of the rule. He said that he knew he was not allowed to ask the audience questions to which he then asked the question and asked the audience member to nod his head. Now I know Clegg is standing on a fairness ticket, but where I come from, fairness is about not breaking the rules.

I don't disagree with what you say here in terms of his performance, but when you promised increased spending on pretty much everything, throw in a £17bn tax cut and promise to tackle the defecit to the extent of the other two, means that anyone who buys into this is living in cloud cuckoo land. His assertion that scrapping trident would save £100bn is in fact over 25 years, which equates to £4bn a year. This as a cut is less is less than the cut in NI, but is dressed up as something bigger and he wants the others to be straight with people.

In terms of political fallout, the loser is Labour. Much of the tory vote 37-38% will hold. I can see much of the labour support switching to the lib dems to the point where they could be the official opposition. They did a poll in the Bolton marginal, but you could never see them going for a toff / southern bastard. On that poll, the seat goes from Labour to Lib Dem.

Amen to that comrade

Short of going to Cleggs lecturn, unzipping his flies and sucking him off, Clown made Cleggs job easy. Now as you seem to agree with me (to some extent), would you agree that this made Cameron's job far harder? To combat this, Cameron will have to be far more direct in future debates.

Indeed, anyone who beleives that reducing NI takes money out of the economy should not be allowed to vote. This is the biggest lie since no more boom and bust. Althought Fraudon has admitted he was partially to blame, but don't worry, he has learnt from it.

There is an issue that a minority party that wants proportional representation gets more than proportional airtime. Dave was really the only one having to fight battles on two fronts which generally never works. My point was that it makes Camerons job much harder. Clegg had fraudon agreeing with him most of the evening, which made cleggs job far easier. Watching Brown suck up to Clegg made me want to vomit. The TV Polls have it as: 1. Clegg 2. Cameron (who scored well on some issues) 3. Fraudon I would say that is how I saw it, in terms of performance (rather than policy). In terms of policy, I think cameron as more realistic, because the other two promised the earth, when we all know that there will be massive cuts whoever wins the election.

Clegg did better than I expected, but he always had the easiest job. Brown was far more agressive to the tories and more direct. Clearly medolsome had given him some one liners, one that sticks out is "David this is answer time, not question time". Cameron didn't do as well as expected. He needed to be more direct. Spent far too much time complimenting each questionner, which gave less time to answer the point. There were a number of points that could have been made and he missed the opportunity - a more direct approach could have knocked the other two into touch. The biggest for me was that the other two continuosly attacked him about cuts and they did so when he said he would protect the NHS. Meanwhile the other two were protecting everything, his man and his dog, yet they were not questioned as to where the money was coming from - anyone with common sense could see that, but alas there will be many viewers that lack this virtue. At times the other two did gang up on him, so the lefties got 66% of the airtime, compared with tories 33%, and for this reason he had the most difficult of tasks. On the plus side, Cameron's closing plea was by far the best.

You've gotta love the understatement from the Captain on BA 9...... Ladies and Gentlemen, this is your Captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control. I trust you are not in too much distress

.... and to think that women had to fight to get to vote. Emmeline Pankhurst would be turning in her grave. I suppose BTF makes up for it.

Will be watching. The leaders views on the forthcoming event are: Fraudon = I am the first prime minister to agree to this format (pompous git!) Clegg = It will be the biggest job interview of my life (what a job that you are not going to get?) Cameron = I just hope the public don't feel short changed For me, Cameron is ahead before the debate starts

I've just asked Dave and George, and they seem up for it. (That was a joke by the way, I don't work for the tory party)

So are you seriously suggesting that in a company location (similar in size to your average hospital) that you are more likely to find an inside smoking room? Don't be daft. For starters, in the event of a fire, insurance would be invalidated (just one fag butt on the premises could invalidate your insurance). The fines imposed would not be worth the risk. Non smoking staff wouldn't tolerate it. The 'benefit' would not be worth the risks as well as the fact it is against the law.

TBF Bridgey, I think you were expecting it.

It's a personal choice to do sport (especially dangerous contact sports), drive cars (we can walk you know) and have kids. Where do you draw the line..... perhaps non-taxpayers should be denied healthcare as they don't contribute to society and act as a drain on resources. Sent from my Brain using Common Sense

... and what about the scenario where a smoker is hurt/injured by a non-smoker where smoking has nothing to do with the said injury. Having kids is a lifestyle choice, so may as well shut the maternity units. I thought that the principle of the NHS - Free at the point of use for all - would apply to all. If it doesn't, may as well shut it down too.

Never get away with that in the private sector