Johnny Bognor

Both,. The leader (in the loosest sense of the word) will influence who I won't vote for and the party will influence who I will vote for.

Guided Missile did an article on Saints Web a while ago. It is the 3rd article down: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/category/columns/guided-by-the-light/

If I was baldy, I would be majorly ****ed off at coming second in that race.

I wouldn't want the Union to disband, but I think the English should have representation. Therefore, I would like the House of Commons to be replaced by an English parliament. Then the House of Lords could be replaced by a UK parliament. This would resolve the midlothian question, but keep the UK together. For those that say this wouldn't work, we have local and national government, so why not local, regional and national too?

The way to do it, is to vote for a minority party or independent candidate. This sends a clear message to the main parties.

Ooops, perhaps I should have posted "£900 bn" instead of trying to spell it out with "£900,000,000,000". As my flirtation with maths ended at A-level, I shouldn't have been so patronising. I believe he got a 1st class honours in Philosophy, politics and economics which is probably more relevant if you are looking to run the country. Those with doctorates in history should stick to teaching, lecturing or working in museums. As it happens, I am not that fussed on "Blair the Sequel". This new breed of P®olitician is not for me.

Had he been minister for tourism, he may have been more qualified for the job.

Yeah, right. My favourite Marx quote is "I am not a Marxist." My 3rd favourite Fraudon line is...... "I did maths for a year at university. I don't think I was very good at it. And some people would say it shows." Gordon Brown April 2007

Try a national debt of £900,000,000,000, the greatest since WW2 (where we needed to spend a few quid to keep our freedom). The annual interest on the debt is £42,000,000,000. We will be paying this back for generations to come. Out of interest, are you the sort of person that ignores their credit card statement in the hope that the debt will go away? Here we go again. I have dealt with this time and time again. Manufacturing as a share of GDP fell LESS in the 1980's than it did in the 1970's and fell LESS as a share of GDP than it did in the 1990's and 2000's. The west has been de-industrialising since the early 1970's and Germany, France and the US (western economies) have seen falls in their manufacturing base.

I have no problem with companies creating wealth and generating profits. I do have a problem with companies like the NR who were reckless and what they were doing was tantamount to fraud and/or gambling. In these instances, I expect the regulators to regulate. Fraudon's gang failed to do this. BTW, did you fall for his "no more boom and bust" line?

Those profits will be taxed and spent one way or another, thus flowing through the economy. Fraudon's insinuation is that this £6bn will magically disappear into thin air The reason why we are in the mess we are (over £900,000,000,000 in debt) is that we are spending too much on the public sector. The simple fact of the matter is that the level of spending is unsustainable. Unfortunately the Public Sector does not create wealth. It merely recycles the wealth generated in the private sector. If you want the economy to grow, you support the private sector. I am sure that there is at least £6bn that could be found in efficiency savings. As it happens, the recovery will come from the wealth creating private sector and as such supporting this part of the economy is common sense. I think Fraudon blew his credibility along time ago, the fact that there are still enough people around to fall for his out and out lies means that he has been able to cause as much damage as he has.

They were regulated (apparently) by the FSA (AKA Financial Suicide Authority) which funnily enough was set up by good old Fraudon. Just for your info, their remit can be found here: http://www.fsa.gov.uk/Pages/About/Aims/index.shtml They failed and by proxy, so did he. But why would he intervene, he was borrowing and spending like the rest of 'us', the only difference being is that is was Chancellor of the bleeding Exchequor.

His famous bailout of Northern Rock had more to do with the failure of the then Chancellor who turned a blind eye to the reckless activity of a bank who were offering 125% mortgages and earning mulptiples of 8x income. Lloyds TSB got into trouble after being persuaded (by him) to absorb HBOS (another reckless lender who conducted commercial suicide on Fraudon's watch). Therefore the bailouts had as much to do with Fraudon's failure as a Chancellor, as much as they are down to Global conditions. If you recall, both HSBC and Barclays faired OK. The strategy of blaming global conditions to cover up his own shortcomings seems to be working. After "saving the world" and promising "no more boom and bust", his latest mantra is that the tories would be "taking £6 Billion out of the economy" by reducing employers NI. This is a complete LIE - What gets my goat is that he really believes that 'we' have fallen for HIS bull****.... and some of 'us' clearly have. Apart from the fact that not a single FTSE chairman agrees with his "tax on jobs", reducing Employers NI will NOT take money out of the economy - it will be used by companies to strengthen balance sheets, invest in new equipment, and (god forbid) be used to employ more people. If anything, reducing employers NI actually LEAVES £6 Billion in the wealth creating economy, rather than being wasted in the over-bloated Public Sector. The fact that just the interest payments on the debt HE has acrued is £42 Billion per annum (more than the annual defence budget) means that HIS recklessness IS taking £42 Billion OUT of our economy each year for many years to come. The guy was a fraud, is a fraud and always will be a fraud and anyone who can't see this really should question whether or not they should really be allowed to have control over a pencil in the voting booth.

I so wish Dave would drop Osbourne and have Ken Clarke as Chancellor. He has credibility, being the most successful chancellor in modern times, even Fraudon himself copied Ken's spending plans for the first two years of his reign.

There's no option for Socialist Labour (for the benefit of Fuengirola Saint) or no Monster Raving Loony party.

....and don't forget Brown, who signed the cheques

One of the best Spitting Image moments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hy628pktV0

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BNP = 68% Tory = 65% UKIP = 63% Possibly agree with 2 or 3, but definately not BNP. I ignored the issue of immigration where possible as over 50% of my staff and quite a few friends are immigrants. Their economic policy (nationalisation and anti-globalisation) is more akin to socialism, so I am not sure where I went wrong.

Which gives Major even more credibility. Major had to beat Douglas Hurd (a true statesman) and Heseltine (one of the tory heavyweights who defeated Thatcher). It was like a Saints vs Man U + Liverpool cup final. Brown got through on a pools panel score draw.

But didn't Major win a leadership election? How many Labour MP's voted for Brown????

Of coursethey go on about safety, in order to legitamise the strike. I didn't see them come out on strike after Hatfield/Potters Bar/Clapham following safety issues. Why the sudden concern over safety now? As it happens, the Potters Bar crash was down to poor maintenance by the railway workers......where was the union then?

Skates are doing them for £19! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=671895&postcount=22569

I think it has less to do with a crap voting system and more to do with crap people to vote for on all sides. You could have the most perfect voting system in the world and it would still deliver the same = crap.