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What is the takeaway point from that story we’d? Tell us

Actually he didnt say that, but true to form facts dont play a large part in your posts.

Its evidently threatening behaviour, a criminal offence and has been for years, long before the term snowflake became fashionable. Threatening behaviour - fear or provocation of violence/ Racially or religiously aggravated threatening behaviour Public Order Act 1986. Racially or religiously aggravated threatening behaviour. Maximum when tried on indictment: 2 years Examples of nature of activity Fear or threat of low level immediate unlawful violence such as push, shove or spit Fear or threat of medium level immediate unlawful violence such as punch Fear or threat of high level immediate unlawful violence such as use of weapon; missile thrown; gang involvement https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/threatening-behaviour-fear-or-provocation-of-violence-racially-or-religiously-aggravated-threatening-behaviour/

Mercosur is planning a Parliament. In fact their plans go further than the EU - integrating education and tax

Meh its the reverse Wes. 1 million of your ilk have died and been replaced by 1 million who don't think Empire 2.0 is the way to go. Delighted is probably more apposite

Pssst. Its 2.5 years later. Things have changed. Sorry about that.

A majority of the electorate don't want to leave if it involves significant economic pain. I don't want Federalism either, nor do most of the non Schengen and non euro countries. Its not going to happen here. That is the real project fear.

Somebody described Wes as "raging against the dying of the light". Its pretty apt

74% of Britain's exports either go to the EU or receive preferential access via the 35 trade deals the EU holds. There are another 26 deals in the pipeline. Thats more than anyone else in the world. The UK will start from zero. How much better will the UK do and how long will it take? What will happen to trade in the meantime?

74%! - thats the proportion of our exports that go either to the EU or to the 35 entities the EU has trade agreements with and we benefit from

Brexit is uniquely age related though, Being in or out of the EU impacts the young more than the old. A lot of brexiteers simply don’t realise the extent to which the world has moved on. The whole world is coalescing into blocs because otherwise you get pummelled in unequal negotiations by the US or China. The only organisation who can negotiate for Britain as an equal partner is the EU. My mum still hates Germans because they bombed her school. I disagree with her but understand her view. My kids just think she is absolutely bizarre and ranting on about something which to them is just ancient history, no different to napoleon or the Norman invasion.

Ooh the irony

I’m similar. I used to be very right wing as a teenager and have gradually moved left as i realised just how complicated many issues are and how simplistic the views of many Tories are in response. The irony is that all the evidence shows that wealth is attracted to countries where there are low levels of poverty and low crime. The most unequal societies are normally the most dysfunctional

Two things. 1. As usual you have totally failed to understand the story you posted. It’s not about the EU raising taxes it’s about stopping the incentive to base erode and profit shifting from one tax regime to another - allowing companies to avoid tax - and thereby forcing more tax onto individuals 2. You should read up on the ASEAN Development Fund and the ASEAN Infrastructure Fund. It’s not where ASEAN is now which is important as they are 25 years behind the EU, it’s the direction of travel, unifying into a bloc.

Aah Singapore. The most recent Brexiteer fantasy du jour. "Multilateral cooperation has now become “more urgent than ever” for the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), said Singapore’s Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong on Tuesday (Nov 13). For one, the international order is at a turning point, with the existing free, open and rules-based multilateral system coming under stress, said Mr Lee. “Countries, including major powers, are resorting to unilateral actions and bilateral deals, and even explicitly repudiating multilateral approaches and institutions. It is unclear if the world will settle into new rules and norms of international engagement, or whether the international order will break up into rival blocs.” These strategic trends of big power competition and shifts against multilateralism are pulling ASEAN member states in different directions, said Mr Lee. Nevertheless, ASEAN has shown that it is able to work together and find common ground. This boils down to the conviction that “ASEAN is greater than the sum of its parts”. “By coming together in one collective voice, instead of going our separate ways as ten disparate countries, ASEAN members have strengthened our standing in the world,” he said, Apart from a new strategic landscape, there are other challenges facing ASEAN. These include disruptions that come with digital technology, as well as looming non-traditional and transnational threats such as terrorism and climate change, said Mr Lee. All these mean that multilateral cooperation is now more urgent than ever, stressed Mr Lee. “These common challenges are complex and unprecedented. No single solution applies to all of us or all of these problems, yet no country can deal with them alone. We need to pool our ideas and resources to tackle these issues together.” ASEAN member countries have redoubled integration efforts over the past year. This includes the “substantial progress” made towards completing negotiations on the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership, and the building of an ASEAN Smart Cities Network that will connect people and economies seamlessly.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/23/peoples-vote-brexit-mps-second-referendum

Of course he didn’t, or at least failed to understand it. Bogdanor, as you know but Wes hasn’t grasped, writing in 2016 said “our exit from the EU depends upon the continuing consent of the people. The notion of finality is quite alien to the spirit of democratic politics. For it must always remain open for a sovereign people to reassess its verdict.” Wes my hard of thinking chum, Bogdanor is writing in favour of a second referendum as he states here https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjclOCP-9TfAhVJWxoKHTY6A9QQzPwBegQIARAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fcommentisfree%2F2018%2Fnov%2F23%2Fpeoples-vote-brexit-mps-second-referendum&psig=AOvVaw3K3pEUInQ4BQaq6_CgemT9&ust=1546719994021925

They don’t need to. Simply let the franchises expire one by one. Zero cost

The whole Tory economic policy is predicated on a flexible, mobile workforce. A pre-requisite for that is an an effective transport system, both roads and rail - yet delays and lack of capacity are common on both. A broken transport policy is exacerbated by a broken housing policy which means people cant afford to live near where they work because where affordable housing is is usually diametrically opposed to where the well paid jobs are. Whichever way you look at it, its another Tory failure

What Grayling meant was "the selfish staff should take another below inflation rise". This press release from 2017 reckons rail fare have risen twice as fast as wages since 2010. https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rail-fares-rising-almost-twice-as-fast-as-wages/

He’s euthet dishonest about the effect of the exchange rate or he goes to Skeggy. Not sure which is worse.

Only emergency porn

Or the ever balanced Mail and Express https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6448885/Most-voters-prefer-Theresa-Mays-Brexit-deal-crashing-EU-new-poll-suggests.html https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1059239/Brexit-news-what-happens-no-deal-Brexit-recession-austerity

90% Pompey obvs