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Exactly this. Once you start down that slippery slope it can easily become impossible to stop. Do you start deporting people for repulsive criminal acts? How about opposing the policies of an elected government which some think is treasonous? Taking back a naive and slightly dim 19 year old with a new born baby is a small price to pay for not eroding the fundamental rights that protect the rest of us and have been hard won over hundreds of years.

You have a legal right to move to anyone of 27 other countries and obtain citizenship. Is it okay to strip you of your British citizenship?

Of course she has rejected 'British values' and is outside the mainstream, just as IRA terrorists did. That doesn't change the fact that you can't / shouldn't strip someone of their birth citizenship because they're a criminal or ideological loon. Acquired citizenship is different - a privilege which can and should be revoked if necessary.

The Japanese said he was arrogant and high handed. I can't imagine where they got that idea from. They must have met him.

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Which part of this didn’t you get? "Jewish people with any sense of humanity"

Tbf you’ve missed the point. How would you feel if Hatton impugned your humanity unless you spoke out against American bombing in Syria?

Because Nissan and Honda and all the other companies planning to move production out of the UK still want to sell cars here. You don't sell cars by alienating the Brexit loving half of the market. Instead you say something anodyne.

Thats the whole point though. With PR you can get genuine change. First past the post just perpetuates the status quo. We would not have been stuck with May and Corbyn as our 'leaders' for so long if PR was used in the UK

I cant see it unfortunately. What should happen and what will happen are two different things. First past the post is an incredibly powerful perpetuator of the two party system. While there might be a wave of popular support for a new party even getting 25% of the votes would see them getting probably 2% of the seats and be wiped out in the next election.

Agreed. Well done for highlighting. I'm at work in London unfortunately but hope some can make it.

The problem with your post is that it’s not true. Like so many pro Brexit posts it betrays a deep ignorance of how the EU works. Any country has the right to deport anybody who after three months has not secured a job or can prove they have independent income which doesn’t require accessing state benefits. The problem is simply that the UK has never implemented this. The British government prefers to blame the EU for a problem our government could fix but choose not to. But you know this already because you have been told numerous times before. You prefer what you feel over what you know.

Do you have a plan setting out what staying with the same wife, staying in the same job and not moving house entails?

Depends where GM is at the time

Thick as. Thick as

You're nearly 70 ffs. Time to act like it. Calling people out on the internet? really? What you going to do, hit him virtually with your real scotch bottle?

No can do. He took the photo down and she left to work in some American bar, so I heard on here

That was the Telegraph yesterday. Today its "Manufacturers may be reluctant to invest in diesel car production in general terms, but economists agree that some factors have made the UK less attractive as an investment destination at the moment. Most obvious is the political uncertainty over Brexit and particularly how a deal might affect the "just-in-time" production models that manufacturers rely on. These demand near-zero friction for parts moving back and forward with the continent. Complex rules of origin that demand a set amount of a product must derive for a certain location to benefit from the tariff reduction or exemption granted under a trade deal are another major cause for concern. The likely agreement on these issues remains uncertain, as they too depend on the future trading relationship between the UK and EU. Nissan’s move not to invest or cut back on UK manufacturing capacity is not an isolated case. Airbus has put out increasingly shrill warnings about future investment in UK operations if there is a “no deal” Brexit outcome. Rolls-Royce has relocated certification of jet engines from Derby to Germany to avoid regulatory headaches post-Brexit, while Philips will stop manufacturing in the UK altogether."

That would cost c£4.5bn pa in subsidies. Still saying there is no connection to the Brexit deal? Have you read the WTO Agreement on Subsidies and Countervailing Measures? Are you ever anything more than totally clueless?

You think they're separate and I'm the stupid one?

So to be clear. The reason investment in the British car industry has slumped 90% since 2015 is nothing to do with Brexit. The reason Landrover has moved production of the Discovery to Slovakia is nothing to do with Brexit. The cancellation of the X Trail build at Sunderland is nothing to do with Brexit. The decline in UK car production since the referendum is nothing to do with Brexit. Anybody from the car industry who says it is is lying.

Maybe you should stay up to date Wes? "Nissan to discontinue diesel engines in its line-up in Europe. A Nissan spokesperson confirmed a media report from Japan, saying the carmaker would no longer include diesel variants in its new models". The new X Trail which will no longer be built in Sunderland was a new model. https://www.electrive.com/2018/05/07/no-more-diesel-sales-in-europe-says-nissan/

Really? When did the Government deliver the promised deal? Last I heard they were still negotiating with 5 weeks to go.

No need. I can see that even after 2.5 years the UK Government still have not delivered on the promise. So Nissan are out. There is a reason Business minister Greg Clarke is Remain. I wonder what that is.

"Nissan boss Carlos Ghosn had previously warned at the Paris motor show that a so-called ‘hard Brexit’ could cause the car giant to reconsider its future investment in Sunderland, saying "If I need to make an investment in the next few months and I can’t wait until the end of Brexit, then I have to make a deal with the UK government." “Our objective would be to ensure that we have a continued access to the markets in Europe and vice versa, without tariffs and without bureaucratic impediments. No customs union no investment. Whoosh