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The death rate seems to be around 0.5% so with 32,000 dead that would give around 6.4 million having been infected.

Exactly so. Its not going away and you cant hide for ever so better to exercise some choice and judgement.

How are they idiots? Government estimates reckon the majority of us will have caught it by next year regardless. Probably around 6 million Brits have done so already. Going out to the park, picking up a nice small dose that doesnt make you too sick or maybe even partially innoculates you is a perfectly reasonable strategy compared to waiting for a couple of months to be jammed into a tube train being coughed on for an hour every morning and night.

Seems like an average kind of price - neither a great deal or a rip off. Quite a few similar on autotrader. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202003168496954?postcode=bn68qb&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&make=BMW&sort=relevance&year-from=2019&radius=1500&fuel-type=Petrol&price-from=500&model=3%20SERIES&year-to=2020&body-type=Estate&page=1

Yes but by late June / July / August when most people take their holidays things will be open again

Yep that is bizarre. Its literally opened up Europe for summer holidays when people were thinking they'd have to stay at home. There will be a stampede today to book ferries and Eurotunnel. Not just France either, because once you're there there are no border checks with other countries.

June 2016.

I've got 18 aunts and uncles and 72 cousins. Its gonna have to be a whole tournament

Also says visitors from abroad are going to go into quarantine. Probably to keep them safe whilst in the country with one of the highest infection rates in the world .

There are a lot of studies in other diseases associating higher viral doses with more severe symptoms.

£60 fine for going to sleep. Its how they're going to claw back the deficit

Data is incomplete, but he's probably right.

It's short for Corona virus disease 19 so technically it should be written CoViD-19

This is one of your more idiotic posts - and also one of those which again betrays your perennial claim to be centre politics when almost everything you post is through a right wing prism. How the **** can you protest in advance about something which had never happened before and was unforeseeable? The legal challenges centred on whether votes had been counted correctly or not. It was not disputed that different counties in Florida counted differently because there was no clear definition in Florida law what constituted a valid vote - ie hole fully punched or not and candidates name written in. Depending on the definition used both Gore and Bush could have won. However the Republican majority US Supreme Court stopped Florida's recount and overruled the State Supreme Court handing the election to Bush.

Haha, spectacularly ignorant of US politics. Remember Bush, Gore the popular votes and chads in Florida?

Thats a different point though. Hilary Clinton was only the candidate because of reflected glory from Bill Clinton and the way she stuck by him. It's true a strong enough candidate wouild have won - but that isnt an argument for retaining a system which can be so heavily influenced by a few votes in a few states.

Disagree. The American system is FTTP on steroids. The electoral college always votes en masse for the candidate who gets the most votes in that state - which means effectively there are only 51 constituencies. Each state can be hundreds of miles across - a huge mash together of urban and rural, black, white and hispanic, white collar and blue. If they instead divided the electoral college votes by the proportion each candidate gained in the popular vote or even counted the votes by each Senate and HoR seat - some 535 in total - it would make more sense and be fairer.

Says the says the loudest dog whistle barker on the forum. Wes you wouldn't be able to recognise objectivity if it slapped you repeatedly around the face - as has happened many many times on this forum.

Potentially the health impacts resulting from the response to COVID could be as large as the number of people dying from the disease itself. Screening for cancers have mostly stopped, most GP appointments are now remote (ie without examination), number of ante natal sessions are way down, along with A&E.

Will be interesting to see how many excess deaths there are at year end and again at end of 2021- ie how many deaths were people with ordinarily years left to live and how many were very sick people whose end was hastened by a few months.

Great. A return to every second post being the same few posters arguing about who is more boring. Learn to stfu once in a while. No-one wants to read it.

They should be finished by September right? and we'll have a spiffy new trade deal by October. After all the EU talks can be concluded by Christmas easy peasy and the US are much more dynamic smart and awesome....

I had the exact same thing in January except mine lasted five or six weeks. The doctor reckoned it was pertussis (whooping cough). Apparently a cut down milder version of it is fairly common in older people who were immunised as babies but have never had a booster. Maybe it escaped from a lab in Southampton https://www.uhs.nhs.uk/AboutTheTrust/Newsandpublications/Latestnews/2020/January/Press-release-Doctors-to-see-if-whooping-cough-bacteria-can-pass-silently-between-close-contacts.aspx

There are all kinds of measures which could be taken to protect staff, but aren't. The NHS just isnt equipped for infectious diseases on this scale. In a purpose built infectious diseases ward the air is at lower pressure than the rest of the building - meaning air flows into the ward never out which helps stop the infective agent escaping and exhaust air goes through virus / bacterial filters. In addition each bed is covered by a plastic tent as a second line of defence. Has anyone seen a single case of that setup used for COVID?