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I admire your optimism....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2533451/Refs-like-Webb-Clattenburg-need-support-deal-sensitive-players-divers-like-Oscar-Kevin-Kilbane.html

Not sure I could cope with the added tension to be honest

What position in the table are Man Utd in this hypothetical end of season scenario and can we overtake them if we win?

Do you think it would be in Adam's interests for the club to go public with what was actually said and do you think that will happen sooner rather than later? And do you know why a watered down version of what was said is being quoted and circulated by journalists rather than the actual version? Cheers

Indeed. It seems that some people think that someone needs to swear etc before something can be deemed inappropriate or offensive.

No probs - I was just picking up on your comment about revealing what the players say during a match as the implication seemed to be that that mitigated what referees do and say.

Ian Peach ‏@iepeach Catching up & seen there's been fair bit today about investment & respective shareholdings. Worth mentioning there's 300 odd fans still to convert their shares & that when they do it means yet more investment in the club and position improves further still. Bit harsh to call them "odd" IMO...

Are you trying to suggest that referees are human?

If a player says something derogatory then there is an instant punishment at the referee's disposal (yellow card). If the referee says something derogatory then the correct procedure is for the club to file a complaint. Seems fair enough to me.

Because that's more difficult to prove? Having something Clattenburg said to one of our players as 'ammunition' is far more tangible (no matter how trivial) than trying to convince the FA that he's got it in for us in general. This is a case of "a means to an end" IMO. Whether this 'tactic' works as the club hoped it will remains to be seen.

Yep, this.

That's a bit harsh. I'm only passing on information....

http://www.thefa.com/news/governance/2014/jan/dani-osvaldo-southampton-newcastle-violent-conduct-charge

Maybe so, but that started before his England call up.

Adam Blackmore ‏@bigadamsport To complete #saintsfc day, Dani Osvaldo banned for 3 games & fined 40k for violent conduct at Newcastle

Adam Blackmore ‏@bigadamsport For clarity, the complaint from #saintsfc re Mark Clattenburg has come from the club & has not been initiated or driven by Adam Lallana Feeling Blue ‏@Pompey_BAWA @bigadamsport bull****! He had to have logged a complaint. #SomeOnesTellingPorkies Adam Blackmore ‏@bigadamsport @Pompey_BAWA @Lord_Palmerston why?More likely manager/chairman talk to him about handball incident & he tells them what was said & they act Stuart Crow ‏@Lord_Palmerston @bigadamsport @Pompey_BAWA They must have asked AL if he felt insulted by remark before proceeding though? Adam Blackmore ‏@bigadamsport @Lord_Palmerston @Pompey_BAWA they may have done , but I just think it's club venting frustrations at not getting decisions Dave Badger ‏@DaveBadger32m @Lord_Palmerston @bigadamsport @Pompey_BAWA Get out of Corteses backside Blackmore.

Or maybe it'll blow over as quickly as the Hodgson "space monkey" furore...?

Paddy Power ‏@paddypower #ThingsThatUpsetAdamLallana When there's unidentified items in the bagging area.

Depends what the club's aim was/is I guess. Maybe it was just a "don't mess with us" shot across the bows, although seems odd to put Lallana in the firing line (given he's largely a kind of private person) if that is indeed all Clattenburg said.

Ben Rumsby ‏@ben_rumsby Apparently, Clattenburg said to Lallana: “You’re very different now since you played for England. You never used to be like this.” Trousers ‏@Lord_Trousers @ben_rumsby Why only "apparently"? Ben Rumsby ‏@ben_rumsby @Lord_Trousers Because that is one version of events. Still waiting to hear whether Southampton/Lallana dispute it. Trousers ‏@Lord_Trousers @ben_rumsby Cheers. So that quote was 'leaked' directly by the PGMOL then?

I'm rather hoping it doesn't mean that. Should be excellent entertainment value when he next refs a Saints game

Neither really. Will be happy if we win the thing but not that fussed if we don't. Will probably go to one or two home ties along the way and the final if we get there.