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Blimey, that's two already today. This one and the Michael Owen one.

Which town?

;-)

I vote for "Mountains and Molehills"

Ahhhh...... Another day, another SaintsWeb Forum debate.....

Indeed. Schools have got a lot to answer for. (^Only jesting) (Obviously)

Why not? :-)

Where are you?

He's not a fan of Hazel Blears it would seem: "For now, the action has moved to Manchester. This is bad because it gives capital-gains-tax-avoider Hazel Blears another opportunity to stun us all with her amnesia over the fact that it was her appalling diversity nonsense which basically caused the entitlement culture responsible for these kinds of riots in the first place."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14472805 The Bank of England has cut its UK growth forecast for 2011 from 1.8% to about 1.5%, warning that the "headwinds are growing stronger by the day". Bank governor Mervyn King said Europe's debt crisis and fears of contraction in the US overshadowed the world economy. Mr King told a press conference that the UK economy had weakened since May, adding that inflation was still on course to hit 5% this year. But he repeated that the Bank still expects inflation to fall next year. Mr King said that some of the biggest risks to economic growth come from the eurozone, where some countries are trying to shore up their fiscal and banking systems. "Were they to crystallise, the risks emanating from the euro area have the potential to have a significant impact on the UK economy," he said during a presentation of the Bank's latest quarterly inflation report. "The imbalances in the world economy are still not being properly tackled and the burden of debt is still there," he added. "This problem will take, I think, a number of years before we will find our way through it." Mr King said there were still reasons for economic optimism, however. "The central view is there will be growth. It is a gradual recovery, but it is still a recovery. There is a limit to what UK monetary policy can do when large, real adjustments are required” "I don't want to underestimate the gravity of the crisis facing the world economy. "But having said that, the UK has done what it can. We have a credible medium-term fiscal plan, which many countries do not, and we have had a depreciation of our exchange rate [which could help exports]," he said

^This

http://www.flickr.com/photos/metropolitanpolice

1132: BBC reporter at Highbury Magistrates Court tells BBC 5 live the first person who appeared in the dock this morning was a 31-year-old teacher called Alexis Bailey. She pleaded guilty to being part of the looting of the Richer Sounds store in Croydon.

1125: Prime Minister David Cameron We needed a fight back and a fight back is under way. 1125: Prime Minister David Cameron says police told him at the Cobra meeting that they had the resources they need. 1119: Prime Minister David Cameron On police funding: We won't do anything that will reduce the amount of visible policing on our streets. 1117: Prime Minister David Cameron There is evidence that a more robust approach to policing in London resulted in a quieter night in the capital. 1115: Prime Minister David Cameron There are more police, more people being arrested, more people being charged and prosecuted. 1114: Breaking News Prime Minister David Cameron Nothing is off the table. There are contingency plans for water cannon to be used at 24 hours notice. 1111: PM David Cameron, in statement in Downing Street, pays tribute to police and emergency services. "Picture by picture" these criminals are being arrested, and they will not let "phoney" concerns about publishing CCTV images breaching human rights get in the way, he says http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

Lots of people (politicians, media, football forum contributors, etc) are now rightly entering root cause analysis mode... Does all this mean I no longer need to feel guilty about the discipline and punishments (within legal parameters) that I've exercised at home with my two children over the last 15 years? I'm off to bolt all the open stable doors up and down the length of the country. I may be some time....

According to this report: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14470017 at least one of our prisons is "demeaning, unsafe and fell below what could be classed as decent" so that's not really an option.....

I would imagine BHA is somewhat disappointed with the miserably low number of bites on his post above. Come on guys, let's have some more reaction, especially given the intellectual effort that he put into the quip in the first place.

Good to see 'The Big Society' principles in action ;-)

Maybe it's more efficient to target a few ring leaders or main protagonists than go for the broad brush approach of putting up hundreds or thousands of faces? The 'less is more' philosophy. Who knows.

I'd rather you put something else in my mouth rather than words

I predict a riot....sorry....a rout. 6-0 to Saints

I would venture that you could establish a fairly substantial monkey chicken petting zoo for this level of investment

I don't doubt that's fundamentally true. I've not known (m)any senior management of any large organisation have a clue how to run things on the shop floor. But, are you saying that the 'shop floor' officers knew, say, yesterday morning how many rioters there would be on the streets of London later that evening? My understanding (which could be wrong) is that there was no significant pre-warning of how large the problem was going to get. How did the cops on the ground know with such accuracy how many cops the management should have been recalling from holiday and redeploying from other assignments so far in advance?

And if they had been sent in large numbers they would have been accused of over reacting.... Damned if they do, damned if they don't Just an opinion mind you.