Matthew Le God

Southampton Football Club sign new player... http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/story-16428582-detail/story.html

It is a shift of sorts. If you had a family ticket in one of the blocks that is no longer the family section, then you are forced to move to keep a family ticket.

They shifted the family section this summer.

I agree S-Clarke.

It more than just the red box, there is a lower building that sweeps around the Chapel stand and connects to the red box.

With Ed the Duck and Andi Peters presenting Saints FM? This guy as the head of catering... And the janitor...

Maybe that is what this is for... Some kind of radio station/catering facility combo?

Beat you to it by a minute. Deserves its own thread really. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?38603-Season-ticket-video

Deserves its own thread... Enjoy.

The whole area of "bigger clubs" is subjective and makes it especially hard to determine the closer the sides are. Hence why it is easier to distinguish the bigger between Man Utd and Darlington, compared to Everton and Saints. In terms of population, it isn't simply a case of looking at the population of Liverpool and saying in a "top trumps style" that they beat Southampton. Nottingham is a bigger city than Southampton, yet would you claim Notts County are bigger than Saints? Also you at least appear to assume (given you awarded a point for each factor), that all factors should be given equal weighting when determining "who is the bigger". I'd argue that some factors play more significance than others.

I've already answered this. You are making this hard when you refuse to read my replies to you.

Is it hard for you to understand that some questions can't be answered unless you have the required information? Simply forcing someone to answer despite this is a bizarre logical step. Also see post #336.

Simply saying Liverpool and Birmingham are bigger cities than Southampton isn't enough justification. Nottingham is a bigger city than Southampton, yet would you claim Notts County are bigger than Saints?

I've already given an answer to that. It isn't a question that can be answered at present with the information available to us. "Bigger club" debates are all very subjective and ultimately pointless and end in circular arguments anyway.

I asked when it started, you still haven't answered.

No, what I wanted you to do was to look at when Saints averaged 30k in a 32k stadium and came 20th and compare that with Everton coming 7th and averaging 33k in a 40k stadium. Can you honestly not see how that is telling of the fanbases? No, of course you can't, hence why we keep having these circular arguments and even I am now starting to get bored of them!

And how long has that been used for? Even in the 1990's Udinese were only averaging 23k, which means they had fewer home fans than Saint did in League One.

You clearly didn't read and/or understand what I said. In any case... Just more circular arguments. Back on topic, what does everyone think could be in the red building? Also the red building is merely the top part of a larger structure underneath that wraps around the Chapel Stand, what could that be? Maybe a sunken arena like the Ricoh? With the red building on top a museum, conference hall, megastore...

Okay, why haven't Udinese averaged over 20,000 in the Italian top flight since 2001?

You are continuing to ignore the counters I raise and the questions I pose, so I can't be bothered with this line anymore.

You are aware, of course, that Udinese haven't averaged over 20,000 since 2001 aren't you? That can't be solely down to the match fixing scandal can it?

That is the complete opposite of what I said in the post you just quoted.

Which is why I told you before it is hard to make a comparison, because until Saints have a larger stadium and finish as high as Everton in the league, how can you tell? For most of Saints' 126 years they have been restricted/stunted from fulfilling what they could.

They are smaller than Saints, as Saints averaged significantly more whilst in the English 3rd tier compared to Udinese as a Champions League team in the Italian top flight?