I'm not fully convinced that our real problems lie with the manager or the players. Sure, both are responsible, but I sense a deeper problem in the running of our club and the message that players are receiving from the top level.
Of course I have no evidence , how would I know? It just seems that way to me based on life experience as an employee of several companies. Sometimes, you (Or the player) just know that you and your manager are in the same boat, and at odds with those with real control.