Crouchie's Lawyer

Yes, ill count on you for my vote!

All this talk of mental illness has got me thinking. Obviously with things like Down Syndrome, there is clearly an error with the brain. However, people classing Serial Killers and Paedophiles as mentally ill? How can you be sure its an illness and not just a wrong preference? The brain is so complicated that I dont think Doctors fully understand how it works and quite often diagnose things wrong. OCD being a prime example. 25 years ago, you wouldnt dream of taking your kids to the doctors because he/she was naughty. They would get a smack and learn from it. Respect would be re-instilled and the kid would more often than not behave. Today, you take the kid to the doctors and the doctor diagnoses the kid with OCD and prescribes them with drugs! I personally dont think paedophiles are mentally ill. They are just doing something wrong. Very wrong. If you slice open their brain and discover they have slightly more of one kind of chemical, that doesnt necessarily mean that chemical must cause you to think of children in inapropriate ways. Everyone is different, because I have a different finger print to the next man, it doesnt mean that my kind of fingerprint causes me to kill people. I just think as humans, because we know so little about the human brain (we only use a small amount of it), it's very disturbing how doctors can claim to diagnose mental illnesses willy nilly.

People like this IMO are the scum of the earth. They should be exterminated, not allowed to breed and further dilute the intelligence of the human race. What do they bring to soceity? Little miss scabby-f*ck wont get any decent grades, she will not get a job (she clearly has authority issues, having been excluded from school 40 times) and will no doubt find some chavy little c*nt to breed with at the age of 15. Mum will turn into a proud gran and then the state will not only be paying for a failed mother turn gran parent, but the cycle starts again! Just f*cking drown the lot of them

Bobby Knot Smile / LTSB / HSBC / Coop

Hmm, good point. Its difficult to say, I guess the person who actually pulls the trigger is the killer (even if instructed by someone else) as they can make their own choices and choose not to do it. Would you not prefer them sat in prison for the rest of their natural life, every day having to live through what they have done. Knowing they will never get out of prison, thinking about things they will never be able to do. You can always give the a piece of your mind too as they will be alive to hear you.

Ah you f*cking b*gger, I was being so careful too! You were waiting to pounch on that weren't you!?

That was one of the accidents, however there was another one. My point was is there a link or is it just plain bad luck coincidence that there were two fatalities on the same stretch of motorway within 24 hours?

FWIW, I am too against it. I feel prison sentences should be increased for more severe crimes and then litterally leave them to rot in prison. Capital punichment is the quick and easy way out of it. 40, 50 or even 60 years behind bars would drive you insane which is all someone would deserve for commiting a crime which merit that.

I tell thee what, if you had a few bob and good negotiation skills, the city of Varosha, Cyprus would be worth a punt investing in. If you could get the Turks who chased everyone out of it to hand it over, and you re-invested making it a good tourist place, you would earn a killing. Sell the commercial property on for a cheap ish amount for a return of share in takings (pubs/clubs etc) you'd be laughin!

No what? I cant see where that no relates to? No people havent misunderstood my initial post perhaps? What you go onto say is correct, I personally do think certain people shouldnt be granted human rights, when they waive they humanity and kill others. This is all IMO of course and I know a lot of people disagree. Out of interest, and I do not wish to start an arguement, merely gauge people's opinions... What are your views on capital punishment?

You agree that Special K says my point was the later part of that quote, or you agree that certain people shouldnt be given human rights?

Gotta be looked at, how there can be two fatal accidents in the same strecth within 24 hours of each other!

Missed that bit at the end

Winston James The dad is a bit nerdy looking from the pic on the BBC. Hint of jon-j too, maybe this is her 'thing' the jon-j's?

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Yeah, very close to home, especially since you fied him! Why did he kill them?

She is naming is after its father.... Me

I feel a lot of people have misunderstood my initial post. I have not said the HRA should be abolished and thus leaving us with a country like Iran or Syberia. I merely commented that I do not agree with certain aspects of it which mean the likes of OBL will be treated like a law abiding human if/when caught. I can see why as DSM explains, it is so, but I do not agree with it. The HRA in general is obviously something for our benefit as a country which I am glad of.

Again, I fail to see how stating my opinion is contradiction? I feel you may not understand what contradiction actually means? Just because I can see the other side of the coin, doesnt mean I like the look of it! No, I dont know if OBL will be caught, I also do not know if when/if he is caught, if anyone will bother with his HR, however, I am entitled to my opinion, and this is a forum where people discuss things. I see no difference in discussing what may be the case here to what maybe the case in a years time with the credit crunch. Or do you go on those threads saying...

Oh, so your resulting to childish name calling. Very intellectual. I would like you to highlight where in the above extract, I have disagreed with myself. By saying 'They all say they want to be different, yet they all group together a like, meaning they by definition are not being different'. How is this contradicting? Im merely saying that there is a flaw in their statement as they are not being turely different if they all group together. Do you understand?

Near escape! I take it you didnt annoy him then!

Which pub is it you run again Weston?

I thought they kind of explained how it began in one of the other saw films? That he got cancer and became deluded with how little people appreciated life, hence the games? Would be good if there is another one though

Nope, I have read my inital post over again, and fail to see the relevance in your counter post. Maybe it is you that has misunderstood. How am I disagreeing with myself?