The Kraken

Silly season continues apace...... Dodgy rumours is about right.

I pulled many a moonie into that window.

Exactly the same for me, bloody useless.

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2868311,00.html

This was done recently, but it was a comparison of our side against the one that played in the FA Cup final and finished 8th. The current squad didn't match up very well at all, although we've added Clyne and Davis since then. It seems a bit pointless to me to compare our side against one that got relegated and finished last in the division (unless you consider we're worse than them, in which case we're in real trouble).

Wigan game is now tied in for the Man United game, so there'll be extra interest.

Reading it back, I've actually got no idea what he's on about. I thought it was clear from the text, the title suggests something different altogether. Colour me confused.

I think we'll agree to disagree then. Like you I've seen him a fair bit over the past 2 or 3 years and I think we're really lucky to have him. I think he'll do a very good job for us; his 45 minute cameo against Ajax was certainly very promising. As I said earlier I have more concerns over Rodriguez, sheerly for the fact I know much less about him.

Statistics would suggest that our highest level of season tickets came not in the first season, but after the FA Cup / 8th PL finish season, 2003/04. In that season we sold out pretty much every home game. For all other seasons we had around 8 games (almost half) where it could be argued we didn't sell out, which perhaps indicated a lower ST level. I think there's very little doubt we'll sell out our games against the top, say, 8 sides. After that I think our crowds against the lesser sides will show us if we have moved on and grown the support significantly since our previous PL days. If we can repeat that 2003/04 season type of attendance figures then i think its fair to say we have. If we've still seeing crowds of only 30,000 to 31,000 or so then I think we could suggest we're around about the same.

I think its fairly clear he means seat patterns?

How many times did you see them play to make this decision, out of interest? I have a number of Palace supporting mates, and they're convinced Clyne will be one of our best players now, and will continue to improve. They all think he has the potential to play for a top 4 club within a few years. I'm more wary about Rodriguez's prospects, but only insofar as I've rarely seen him play to make a decision one way or the other. But adkins certainly seems to have faith in him, and I'd be shocked if he didn't start more games than not in the league.

Quality to do what in the Premier League? Clyne is definitely good enough IMO, he's not one for the future, he's one for now. JRod similarly will feature a lot for us this season (if he doesn't its a complete waste of money).

That's not quite what I meant. I meant that if you're buying for 4 people, and none of them have been to a Saints game before, the system will automatically create a customer account for each ticket. On relfection that's probably a bit of a work up so maybe unlikely, although as I say it would make sense to do it that way.

It'll be a farce if you can get more than 20 points per match on an individual basis, just because you happen to buy a few tickets. I'm wondering if it'll be a pre-requisite that you have to register/have a customer account for every ticket that you buy, it would certainly make sense.

If that's true, it means the club have f*cked up on how they're going to administer the points system

If that's true, it means the club have f*cked up on how they're going to administer the points system

http://mobile.saintsfc.co.uk/runtime/southampton/article?articleId=2858210 I'm right about the points going on match by match. But it seems like there is also a priority sales period for away games for season ticket holders.

http://mobile.saintsfc.co.uk/runtime/southampton/article?articleId=2858210 I'm right about the points going on match by match. But it seems like there is also a priority sales period for away games for season ticket holders.

Man United home game has now been linked with the Wigan game. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2862691,00.html

Man United home game has now been linked with the Wigan game. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2862691,00.html

Actually, JRM is correct. ST holders will get their points on a match by match basis throughout the season, as soon as match tickets go on sale for a particular home game, that's when the ST points get apportioned. So JRM is correct, non ST holders who go to away and home games could well be higher in the rankings than ST holders.

Actually, JRM is correct. ST holders will get their points on a match by match basis throughout the season, as soon as match tickets go on sale for a particular home game, that's when the ST points get apportioned. So JRM is correct, non ST holders who go to away and home games could well be higher in the rankings than ST holders.

It'll also be interesting to see exactly how they work the loyalty system for these games, or in fact all games. You'd have to think its not the easiest system to manage as the benchmarks can theoretically change game by game, particularly for the first half of the season as many non-season ticket holders are building up their points level from zero. Shame friendlies don't count, I've made the probably daft decision to go to the Wolves game. TO says around 2,000 tickets sold so far, which is pathetic really.

It'll also be interesting to see exactly how they work the loyalty system for these games, or in fact all games. You'd have to think its not the easiest system to manage as the benchmarks can theoretically change game by game, particularly for the first half of the season as many non-season ticket holders are building up their points level from zero. Shame friendlies don't count, I've made the probably daft decision to go to the Wolves game. TO says around 2,000 tickets sold so far, which is pathetic really.

I'm not sure how I got pulled into the previous debate without even posting, but anyway. From previous publications of the what the sales of season ticket figures might be, I'd say that "final" figure of 22,543 might be high, allowing for comps, staff, youth players, players' families etc. But even with that in mind I'd have thought only by up to 200 or 300 or so, a fairly negligible figure. To answer the question of whether its an impressive figure or not; even if the full 22,500 is correct, its about a thousand or two less than I thought we might achieve. Feelgood factor and on the back of two great seasons, I have to say I'm slightly surprised we didn't hit an all time high of 24,000 this time round. 22,500 (or even 22,000) is still pretty decent though. And perhaps if we can consolidate in the league this year and push on, next year's figure will get close to achieving that. Overall, a fairly decent but an unsurprsing level of sales.