Whitey Grandad

Let’s not get too melodramatic. No lives were ‘put at danger’.

Yet you cannot see that there is a difference between domestic travellers and incomers from overseas. One is a known risk because the history is known, the other is an unknown risk. And I am not advocating travel from UK hotspots am I.

Not the point though, is it. The punishment must fit the crime.

Under what law?

No, but what do they have to do with the EU and Freedom of Movement?

As I read it the point was about the size of the penalty and not the culpability.

“far from perfect” is quite an understatement. We deliberately followed a policy that was different from most others. It was the ‘sit back and do nothing’ policy. Whilst others were closing bars, restaurants and schools we were being taught how to was our hands.

That link seems to be about Germany. What am I supposed to see?

It varies between countries. Belgium in particular are very strict. Where there’s a will...

Schengen has never been a completely open door. After three months they can come and send you back if you don’t meet the conditions. Britain has never enforced this.

Not the same. Incomers are unknowns. Locals have been through weeks of a form of quarantine.

I'm not saying that we should all be allowed to do likewise, but whilst the police are out persecuting motorists there is plenty of other stuff going on that is far more virus-friendly.

Not in my house I don't

And anybody can wander in from a virus hotspot without even being tested let alone quarantined.

If it hadn’t been reported then we would never have known about it. And nobody would have been infected.

Yes, it’s all a question of risk. In the grand scheme of things nothing like as bad as holding a house party for all your juvenile mates in Manchester. I am not condoning their action, just saying that the penalty was over the top.

And how exactly would they do that? And what is the difference between a 200 mile or a 2 mile trip?

It doesn’t sit right with me either. A stern warning would have been sufficient plus public shaming and humiliation.

That would have been fun. Just imagine the whole of Div 1 getting promoted.

I may be obsessing about this but... shouldn't it be OCD?

The giant Union Flag was painted in 1977 for the Queen's silver jubilee. I remember it being painted and I always thought it was for the "I'm Backing Britain Campaign". I'm sitting right now in my factory unit at Hamble just off Ensign Way. This area west of Hamble Lane used to be an airfield, Hamble South airfield to be precise. The factory here used to build the 'Armstrong Whitworth Ensign' hence the name of the road 'Ensign Way'. At the bottom of this road there is still a concrete slipway which was originally built to launch and retrieve seaplanes. When I bought the unit in 1990 there was an old shed/hangar down by the shore, now gone. http://www.hamblehistory.org.uk/community/hamble-local-history-society-12978/hambles-airfields/ In the graveyard of Hamble church (The Priory Church of St Andrew the Apostle) is the grave of Alliott Verdon Roe, founder in 1910 of the Avro Aircraft company and later (I believe) the Vero range of companies. Roy Chadwick used to work here too. He was the designer of the Avro504K, the Lancaster and what was to become the Vulcan. There is a blue plaque at 38 Chessel Avenue in Bitterne where he lived from 1922-29. http://roychadwick.com/ We must also mention of course RJ Mitchell who lived at 2 Russell Place, Portswood whilst working at Woolston and later at what are now the IBM laboratories at Hursley. He also has a blue plaque. He previously lived at Radstock Road, Woolston. http://sotonopedia.wikidot.com/page-browse:mitchell-reginald-j This sotonopedia looks interesting. I might have a browse later tonight.

Just a gentle reminder to any smokers that you are at greater risk. The Chinese report says up to fourteen times greater risk but there are other factors. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/smokers-at-greater-risk-of-severe-respiratory-disease-from-covid-19 https://journals.lww.com/cmj/Abstract/publishahead/Analysis_of_factors_associated_with_disease.99363.aspx

Griffon Hoverwork are still at Woolston. I remember being on a Red Funnel ferry going past Calshot at low tide when a hovercraft on its way to Cowes just cut across the mudflats. It didn't seem natural. https://www.griffonhoverwork.com/

Yes, me too. It is in The Times this morning. There is a paywall but those interested may have some success by searching for this headline: “Southampton’s James Ward-Prowse: It’s not about being first – we must protect jobs“

It’s just a small point but the employees will still pay PAYE and NI on these subsidies.