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I don't regularly use Twitter anymore but I would be amazed if they didn't already start on the day of the attack.

Just seen some of the latest footage from Gaza on the news. Jesus! There's no denying that what Hamas did was unconscionable, but this is most definitely not a proportionate response.

No, it would be a party with the highest number of seats but still less than 50%, hence a minority.

Is it? I thought the party with the largest vote share could attempt to form a minority government.

I don't think enough has been made of this TBH. I remember the furore a few years back when Ahmedinijad was (mis)quoted as saying he wanted to see Israel wiped off the map*. This statement from Netenyahu is no different. * - he was actually quoting the Ayatollah who in fact said that he wished the current Israeli regime could be wiped from the pages of history. Didn't stop a lot of people from frothing at the mouth about it though.

I get what you're saying Whelk, but you're still making out that it's more one-sided than it actually is. When Israeli troops demolish Palestinian homes to make room for their illegal settlements, is that them responding to aggression against them? Of course it's not. It's them proactively persecuting people whose families have lived on and worked that land for centuries for their own gain. Yes, there are many Arabs who want to end Israel's existence, but there are many in Israel who also want to completely eradicate the presence of Arabs from the region and, with the backing of the state, have been systematically going about this for decades. Don't try and make out that the desire for sole control of the land and the removal of other ethnicities is exclusive to Arabs, because it's not.

It's tragic isn't it. So much death and suffering because of some delusional bollocks written down centuries ago. I'm reminded of the episode of Red Dwarf when it transpired that the entire Cat race had obliterated each other in a holy war over whether the hats worn by the staff in the burger store in the promised land of Fujal (Fiji) should be red or blue, and Lister pointed out they were both wrong because the hats were supposed to be green. Sorry to trivialise and make light of the situation like that, but it's the way I see it.

I think this is probably spot on. The SNP will lose a fair amount of support after the recent financial scandals, but will still retain enough seats to make it difficult for Labour to win an overall majority. Lab/Lib Dem coalition is looking the most likely outcome, but despite their catastrophic handling of literally everything in recent years, the Tories will still get millions of votes and make it a closer run thing than it really should be.

I don't think you're alone in this Nick. Some of the atrocities carried out against the Palestinian people by successive Israeli governments are beyond the pale. It's little wonder there is so much hatred towards them from Gaza and the West Bank. For years I watched TV reports about it where Israeli government officials were decrying Palestinian actions and making out like they were completely unprovoked, but as I got older I realised that they are basically the equivalent of a school bully who has been picking on the same weedy little kid for years on end that goes running to the teacher complaining it's not fair when he finally fights back. BTW, I'm not in any way condoning Hamas' latest escalation. They've gone way too far this time and have started an all out war that they can't win, which will only cause a great deal more suffering for their own people and weaken sympathy to their cause in many quarters.

Tell you what Turks, why don't you take yourself along to a local league match in an old mining town in Wales and express that opinion to some other spectators, then come back and tell us how you got on, yeah? 😉

We didn't though. We scored one goal and that's never enough with this bunch. We had quite a few chances and people are saying their keeper played a blinder, but none of our efforts really tested him that much. I just can't fathom how RM worked out that a 1-0 lead would be sufficient and he killed all our forward momentum with that triple sub. After that it was just more of the same old slow, ponderous passing it around at the back until the other team have had a chance to regroup, and once they have we know we don't have the players to unlock an organised defence. We simply don't have a strong enough defence to sit on 1-0 leads either, as has been proven time and time again. With Baz in the nets there is always the chance that the oppo will score from their first shot on target, and so it proved again on Saturday. You can say it was a freak, one-off shot, but Baz was so far off his line he basically invited it. Rotherham were there for the taking. But thanks to some poor finishing and negative second half tactics, we gifted them an ill-deserved draw. Their fans will have come away from that wondering how the hell they escaped with a point.

God that's a depressing read. It just shows that RM has learned absolutely nothing.

So it begins...

I'm with you mate. I do enjoy watching rugby, but most of the time I have no idea what the referee has given certain decisions for. I also still haven't the slightest clue what the point of a scrum is.

Perhaps they do. Unfortunately, given previous Israeli form, many more undeserving Palestinian civilians will also bear the brunt of it. And all it will do is create martyrs and the whole sorry cycle of violence and bloodshed will continue.

Not sure I would have Bazunu in ahead of Davis TBH. Kelv had his limitations but was a decent shot stopper at times. I don't see Baz emulating his MOTM performance against Leeds anytime soon.

And even with the goal that we did score, it was criminal that Che couldn't get that header on target.

Full time. Very fucking poor not to take all 3 points here. Very Saintsy indeed.

If we can't find a way to beat a shit team like Rotherham at home, we have no business believing we should be in the promotion mix come the end of the season.

Off the line. Not gonna happen today is it.

There we go. That's the price you pay for not killing it off.

Stupid booking for Sully

Do you mean tenacity?

Bet365 have it at 80/20 currently.

Ah so what you're saying is that he spent most of his time doing something other than the job he was being paid to do. He spent years bleating about the EU's fisheries policy, yet when he was in a position to actually make a difference by being on the committee for it, he did absolutely fuck all (he attended one meeting out of about 50) and instead stood on the outside sniping. Anyway, didn't he vow to leave the country if Brexit turned out to be a disaster? Then why the fuck is he still here? The 'hard work' he put in to get us out of the EU has fucked the country over, and his interest in it was only ever about self promotion and personal gain.