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This is another fucking dreadful performance. Boro are bottom of the table and they are much the better team.

And just jogged back when they broke upfield. And there's the equaliser to nobody's surprise.

Surprise surprise - oppo go on a decent break from our own corner. How many more times FFS.

We've been utter shit since the goal.

Don't know how they didn't score there. That all came from us pissing about with it on the half way line. Always the architects of our own downfall.

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Lovely ball in from Che. Nice control and finish from Arma. Sweet.

This is very interesting, and something that I can personally relate to. When I was 6 years old, my dad who worked in shipping went off go sea one day and never came home. Took my mum 7 years to find out he had decided he couldn't cope with family life and had fucked off to live in Spain. I didn't see him face to face again until I was 24. As a teenager in the 90s, I got massively into the rave scene. I liked nothing more at weekends than to go out to a club (the Rhino was a favourite haunt) and get off my face on speed, pills, acid... whatever. It was my way of escaping my 'normal' life for a few hours. I didn't realise it at the time, of course, but looking back now it's pretty obvious I did that to fill the void left by my absent dad. I spent years and years trying to find ways to replicate the highs I experienced during those times, until finally realising I was never going to achieve that and that I had to find other things in my life to derive joy from. I've never scored a goal in front of 40,000 fans, obviously, but I can totally relate to Merse on this. If you have an addictive personality then trying to find ways to satisfy that craving can become all pervasive in your mind and seriously impact on your day to day life if you don't have the ability to control it. As much as I dislike Russell Brand, if he had/has a genuine sex addiction then I do have a small degree of sympathy because it would have a big detrimental effect on his ability to make rational choices. It's just a shame that his particular addiction has direct consequences on other people who then become victims of his mental health problems. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in terms of criminal cases etc...

Well at least it wasn't a hammering, but it was still truly fucking awful to watch. Teams really don't have to work too hard to beat us at the moment. Wait long enough and we will hand them a chance or two on a silver plate through our own fucking stupidity. I could almost - almost - forgive the dodgy defending if we were actually looking threatening ourselves and scoring goals, but we're just not. It's the same old turgid, pedestrian bollocks in attack that it was last season; a bunch of nothing players looking like they have never played together before. Just 1 goal scored in our last 3 games now, and very few decent chances created. If this carries on we'll be lucky to finish in the top half. We can kiss goodbye to any promotion hopes already.

All mine gone down as well. Probably for the best really.

Wouldn't bet against another Ipswich goal before HT. Christ, we tried to give them another one with more fucking suicidal pissing around with it at the back. I'm sure Martin will come out and say he's proud of the players and they did everything he told them to. Fuck off.

Are we ever going to get a clean sheet ever again? For all that we looked in control, yet again we manage to concede from our first mistake.

Dare I say it - Aribo having a decent game so far?

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Charles at CB with two actual CBs on the bench, with Smallbone and Aribo in midfield. I don't think I'm even going to bother watching. That team is going to get murdered on the break.

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Like everyone else @Whitey Grandad I'm sending my warmest wishes to you and your family at this challenging time. Sport is just a meaningless distraction really when you put it in perspective.

So having watched us get carved open at will by both Sunderland and Leicester, and conceding 9 goals, do you honestly think it's just down to individual errors and there's nothing wrong with the tactics? Errors in possession can be got away with if you have an organised defensive shape giving sufficient cover. When they are being punished so frequently, and a misplaced pass from a corner can lead to a 3 on 1 against the keeper with not a single defender within 10 yards of them, then you cannot put that down to simply being sloppy on the ball.

We failed to keep the ball because they knew exactly where and when to press our players into making a mistake. The goal after 21 seconds highlights that. and if most formations would have been sufficient then it just shows even more that our tactics are shit and can be out overcome by anyone with basic competence.

Yeah that's basically the point I'm trying to make. Leicester's setup enabled them to absorb what we tried to do in attack and ruthlessly exploit our glaring weaknesses in midfield and defence. It highlights the difference between a competent manager who understands the basics of how to set up a team tactically, and a shite one who doesn't.

Quite. Like us they have a new manager and a largely new-look squad. But the difference yesterday was night and day. Their manager knew exactly how to set his team up to defend properly and to exploit our weaknesses.

I think you're largely banging this drum on your own mate. I'm not going to start calling for RM's head quite yet, but the two pastings we have just taken in our last two games are undeniably the result of tactical ineptitude on his part. Yes, there have been major issues with this club for a while now, and many of the players who have played a large part in our downfall are still here. But the squad we have now absolutely wouldn't be getting murdered on the break and conceding 4 or more goals game after game if they were coached and set up correctly. Martin needs to recognise that his whole system is fatally flawed and that we will lose more than we win the way he has us playing. But all the indications so far, and the testimony of the Swans fans who have come on here, point to him being completely inflexible and unable to learn from his mistakes. So the question is: how much longer do we give him before accepting that we have cocked up yet another managerial appointment?

He didn't. The most spectacular one was from Che's curling effort early in the first half, but I would still expect any competent keeper to save that. Other than that he had very little to do.

Unsurprising, given that he's only just returned from injury and missed all of pre-season.

Harsh to single him out. He was the only attacking player who looked like he was going to make something happen in the second half, he misplaced a pass in the attacking third that led to a goal because our entire defence was over-committed so you can't blame him for that, and the red card was a travesty.