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Norway + ???

Realistically, it was dead when it got defeated by a historical margin first time round, but May in her stubbornness managed to keep it on life support. I seriously doubt there's any way it can be resuscitated now though. Today was her desperate last throw of the dice.

You reckon? We were supposed to be leaving today remember.

This has to go back to the public now. Has to. It's ridiculous. If Parliament can keep changing their minds but still can't come up with an acceptable way forward, there is simply no justification for continuing to stick with the "We must respect the result of the referendum" line, given all the water that's passed under the bridge since then.

Yes it's bad luck for Cardiff right now, but those are probably the three best players in our squad and we have been without them for most of the season so far. Had they been fit and available, and had we not lost Yoshida for a month to the Asian cup and been forced to play Stephens instead, I expect we would have a much larger gap over Cardiff than we currently do. So yes, you really can say we haven't had luck on our side.

Oh undoubtedly. Meanwhile, Dominic Raab, who previously stated that May's deal would be worse than staying in the EU, is now backing the WA motion today because "It's better than staying in the EU". So you've changed your mind eh Dom? Interesting.

Cardiff will be without Callum Patterson for the rest of the season... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47726278

Of course it is. Win and we draw level with them on points (and potentially leapfrog them on GD depending on margin of victory), but lose and we will be 6 points behind them.

Yes, you read that right. The leader of a supposedly credible political party, who recently appointed a convicted violent criminal as his special advisor, spreading outright untruths (he obviously missed the recent news report about Boris' water cannons being sold for scrap after the govt refused to allow their use) and pre-blaming the police for any violence that might* occur in London today. https://twitter.com/MetPoliceEvents/status/1111538049710723073 Who was it on here who was saying there would be a massive resurgence of support for UKIP if Brexit was cancelled and there was a GE? With this massive bellend in charge they have essentially just become the new BNP. A pointless, single-issue fringe party with about as much charm as a rabid dog. * - by "might", I mean "quite obviously, definitely will".

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1111319086049443841?s=09 When put like this, May's attempt to separate them in order to bypass Bercow's ruling seems like a desperate last throw of the dice.

And the DUP have already said they won't support it - unsurprisingly. What was the margin of defeat last time round? I know there's been a few high-profile u-turns from the vultures in the ERG (although Boris has turned about so many times now he must be dizzy), but will that be enough still? Would still need a number of Labour MPs to vote in favour or abstain, so it still looks unlikely.

Seems so. And Bercow has gone along with, it seems. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47740158 Does she have the numbers though?

Blimey! You must be minted if you think a salary of £70k is "poxy" (it's actually closer to £80k though). The thing is though, it doesn't matter if you pay £70k or £700k, the fact remains that literally anyone can become an MP - and rightly so. It shouldn't be the sole domain of only those who can afford a decent education, despite what the Tories may think. I would be happier knowing that people enter politics because they are passionate about their beliefs and have a genuine desire to improve other people's lives, rather than seeing it purely as a lucrative career.

Meanwhile... Less than a day after he had already done a massive u-turn and said he would support May's deal (remember him hiring a photographer to picture him signing his resignation letter from the cabinet in protest over it?), because he got a sniff of the chance to get the PM job if he did - He's now gone full 360 again. The most shameless, narcissistic charlatan that British politics has ever known.

Yeah I saw this earlier and found myself in complete agreement with her. Just like last week when he could have engaged with a huge number of his party's members and supporters marching in London, he chose to duck out of it and go and do some local election campaigning in Morecambe . Now I am familiar with Morecambe and how much it has gone downhill in recent years, so I can kind of understand why he would want to bring attention to the socio-economic problems in the town, but really? Was that the wisest use of the opposition leader's time on that day of all days? He won't commit to a policy of supporting a people's vote or 2nd referendum because, despite having campaigned for remain, he has always been a leaver at heart - albeit for very different reasons from the Tories/ERG. This has led to him becoming completely disconnected from his voters, leaving the opposition party completely lacking in any leadership when the government is not just on the ropes, but down on the canvass with a broken nose.

Well one thing has happened today which I never expected - I actually found myself feeling a modicum of respect for a handful of Tory MPs who have shown genuine integrity and concern for their constituents above their own self interest. Never thought I would see the day. I mean, I would still sooner shoot myself in the head than ever vote for them, but at least they've shown there are one or two decent human beings amongst them.

Yesterday it emerged the ERG extremists have chosen a name taken from the KKK, and now today another one is promoting a far-right conspiracy theory... https://www.businessinsider.com/conservative-mp-suella-braverman-far-right-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theory-cultural-marxism-2019-3?r=US&IR=T Lovely bunch, aren't they!

If you made the mistake of believing anything that any politician said then more fool you. Both sides promoted things that turned out to be untrue, this is correct. But the exaggeration of the economic effects of leaving put out by the Remain campaign pales into insignificance when compared to the endless list of complete untruths spouted by Leave. And as UJ rightly points out - by engaging in such whataboutery, you are actually just reinforcing the case for a second referendum now that so many more facts are available.

Hmmm. A poor choice of words, given the circumstances.

They seem to be trying to wriggle out of it on a technicality, due to the fact that the initial contract he signed was rejected by the PL over 'front-loading' of the signing on fee, rather than spreading it over the duration of the contract. But Nantes claim that FIFA registered the international transfer certificate earlier in the day of the crash, therefore he was Cardiff's player despite not having a valid contract to allow him to play in the PL. For them to claim "Once a Bluebird, forever a Bluebird", then try and wash their hands of it in order to avoid paying a fee is beyond the pale. We'll have to wait and see what FIFA and the PL think of their argument of course, but I expect they will be forced to either pay the fee or face a transfer ban and/or points deduction.

Oh dear. Liam Fox's previous comments blatantly contradicted by his former trade chief. I mean, it's not like anybody with an IQ above that of a llama didn't already recognise this, but.... https://www.businessinsider.com/says-liam-fox-former-trade-chief-2019-3?r=US&IR=T

I can see a number of people in that photo whose skin tones and facial features are quite clearly not of pure 'white' origin. I can also see a big sign that says "Workers Liberty" on the side of the green gazebo, which is a pretty large clue to the social class of the people who erected it. But yeah, apart from that, they're all just white and middle class aren't they

42% of people still believe the myth that we give £350m a week to the EU https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/vote-leave-brexit-lies-eu-pay-money-remain-poll-boris-johnson-a8603646.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true Edit: The tweet was a little misleading. The article doesn't actually say these 42% of people think the NHS will get that much money.

Mr Pie hits the nail on the head as usual.

Why is it?