Sheaf Saint

Guly on for J-Rod

He just saved a certain goal!

JWP on for Lallana.

Lallana flicked the ball over Olsen to break clean away and he hacked him down with a high, late and cynical challenge. He was lucky he only got a yellow.

F*ck me that should have been red.

We saw him do similar in the Villa game last season so we know he's got it in him. I really hope he can find some consistency because that sort of creativity is what we bought him for and what has been been lacking so often this season.

At last! Adam you fricking beauty!!!!!!!!!

What the buggering hell has Gaston done to his hair!?

Gaston coming on. Cork off.

Apparently neither team has ever won a PL game with Howard Webb in charge. Dead cert draw then.

Apparently not. J-Rod skies it over from a decent position.

Rickie goes for a spectacular volley and blasts it way over.

We're definitely winning the midfield battle so far. Just need to do more with it up front.

FK in a decent position. Don't waste it Saints.

I do rate him but he has looked too casual at times today and given the ball away cheaply a few times. Not at his best.

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West Brom there for the taking. Just got to make sure we capitalise.

15 mins gone and only 14 posts on the match thread? Where the hell is everyone today?

Worth a go from Davis. Not far away.

First shot on target from Lallana on the edge of the box. Straight at the keeper.

Come on Saints. Let's get back to our early season form.

OK GM, I made the mistake of looking at the difference in the anomaly figure (from around -0.25 to around 0.15 which is 0.4). However that does not detract from the fact that the graphs still show a rise in temperatures which contradicts your claim of no warming for the last 20 years. I would still like to see the data you are basing this assertion on please. I would also still be interested to read you response to the question of whether or not the observed data figures in the graphs are within the predicted range of the models. As for your updated graphs, if I was to submit an assignment with a 'line of best fit' (Ha!) that was as far off as yours, my tutor would return it to me and order me to do it again.

And if you care to actually look properly at the graphs, instead of seeing only what you want to see, you will notice that the temperature anomaly in all of them is greater than 0.1C. The first two, which show data up to last year, actually points to an increase of around 0.4C. Which kind of p*sses on your claim of a 20-year halt in warming doesn't it?

Not really. Interpreting data from graphs is something that is taught in GCSE science. It is you that seems to be struggling with it in this case. Look again at those graphs you posted and please give me a simple yes or no to the question: is the black line of observed temperature data within the range of predictions?

Below most of them, but consistent with some of them. They can't all be correct can they. Yes your graphs show the black line of observed temperatures as being towards the very lower end of the predicted range, but in all three it is still within the predicted range. Oh it's twenty years now is it? Here was me thinking the entire skeptic argument was based on the notion of no warming since 1998 (which is demonstrably false anyway) but now you reckon there has been no warming now since 1994? Please show us the data which support this.